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Re: Nothing Phone says it will hack into iMessage, bring blue bubbles to Android

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Post by wkat4242 »

theodric wrote: post #22
meepmorp wrote: post #13

Do most Android users actually care one way or an another? IMO, it seems like there's a small, if vocal, minority of folks with a deeply weird inferiority complex around blue bubbles and most people don't care at all. None of my Android using friends seem to give a shit.

In Europe - NL/CH/IE, specifically - everybody I know uses WhatsApp and Signal (except the Swiss who sometimes insist on Threema), even between iPhones-- iMessage never even comes up. I don't think anybody's sent me an SMS in literally years, bar one North American-based guy I used to work with. (I'm sure someone out there knows a clique of European iMessage partisans, but that someone is not me!)

Yeah same here in Spain and I have a lot of Dutch friends. Nobody has sent me an SMS in years and I don't have iMessage. Some of my friends have iPhones but they just use WhatsApp or telegram like everyone else (for Dutch friends WhatsApp is the main thing, here in Spain it's more telegram but also because its group chats are infinitely better and I'm involved in a lot of groups)

Re: Nothing Phone says it will hack into iMessage, bring blue bubbles to Android

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Post by 650REDHAIR »

theodric wrote: post #16
lotsofpulp wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I asked a bunch of teen to 30+ year old friends and family, and every one would say that for the purposes of dating, they would require iOS usage due to the perceived probability of an Android user being an incompatible match being too high.

What on Earth would drive that perception? Do iOS users prefer dating other people who will spend lots of money on a status symbol? This sounds like nothing but a thinly-veiled attempt at discrimination based on an assumed level of wealth. (Which, if you've priced out Pixels lately, is not at all accurate.)

Ease of interaction.

Higher resolution photos, location sharing, in-line replies and emotes, etc etc

Group threads with a single Android user get annoying.

Re: Nothing Phone says it will hack into iMessage, bring blue bubbles to Android

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Post by 4death4 »

theodric wrote: post #23
4death4 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you really think iOS users view iPhones as a status symbol? That seems like a major incompatibility right there.

Yes, I do. And Android an "anti-status" symbol. cf. https://archive.is/0Mpc8 Edit: and this comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38272193

Ok but the point still stands. My impression of iOS users is they simply feel they prefer the UX, whereas you feel, as an Android user, that you’re making an ideological choice. As someone who cares little for the ideology of consumer choices, I don’t think we’d get along, which reinforces the original point about personal compatibility.

Re: Nothing Phone says it will hack into iMessage, bring blue bubbles to Android

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Post by mattl »

wkat4242 wrote: post #27
lotsofpulp wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has nothing to do with wealth, iPhones are cheap. As another commenter states, it’s about taste or “weirdness”. Similar to making assumptions based on clothing or clothing or other chosen attributes.

Cheap in the US perhaps. Here in Spain even the SE is 579€ and you can get a great budget or midrange Android for much much less. Which will have lot of mod cons the SE doesn't have like a modern bezelless design, amoled and in-screen fingerprint. Usually even a 3,5mm Jack. Most people carry Redmi phones and use wired headphones here. It's absolutely about wealth.

A message from an Android user is no different to a spam text message. I expect in Europe most people use WhatsApp anyway so it’s less of an issue.

But in the US, communication with Android users on iOS sucks. Garbage quality media, none of the usual features like reactions or groups or sharing things works well.

Re: Nothing Phone says it will hack into iMessage, bring blue bubbles to Android

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Post by olyjohn »

theodric wrote: post #26
lotsofpulp wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has nothing to do with wealth, iPhones are cheap. As another commenter states, it’s about taste or “weirdness”. Similar to making assumptions based on clothing or clothing or other chosen attributes.

The cheapest iPhone is $429. An iPhone 15 not-Pro is at least $799, a Pro $999, up to $1599. Is that cheap?

No that's not cheap. If someone thinks that's cheap, they're living in a bubble.

Re: Nothing Phone says it will hack into iMessage, bring blue bubbles to Android

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Post by dmitrygr »

metadat wrote: post #5

Trivial for Apple to shut them out, unfortunately. It would be great to have an easy to use, low friction messaging platform that wasn't controlled by FB or the Telcos. I like Signal but haven't been able to get my family members on board. Edit: Alternative ongoing discussion I noticed: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38268184 (3 comments)

That platform or exists. It is not free. The price of admission is buying an apple device. Part of the price pays for the platform. All of that seems reasonable

Re: Nothing Phone says it will hack into iMessage, bring blue bubbles to Android

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Post by rc5150 »

As a small business owner who relies on SMS for coordinating repair pickups and drop offs, as well as media transmission, just seeing the blue bubble means I can instantly ascertain whether their hardware is capable of in terms of shared features like location sharing, compatible media sharing, etc. When I see a green bubble, often times I don't bother trying to send hi-res photos via SMS and I just go straight to emailing or using another platform like instagram or what have you.

Re: Nothing Phone says it will hack into iMessage, bring blue bubbles to Android

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Post by lvzw »

theodric wrote: post #26
lotsofpulp wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has nothing to do with wealth, iPhones are cheap. As another commenter states, it’s about taste or “weirdness”. Similar to making assumptions based on clothing or clothing or other chosen attributes.

The cheapest iPhone is $429. An iPhone 15 not-Pro is at least $799, a Pro $999, up to $1599. Is that cheap?

From the amount of utility you derive from a phone, and the life span of phones these days, $429 seems cheap to me. But it’s all relative I suppose.

Re: Nothing Phone says it will hack into iMessage, bring blue bubbles to Android

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Post by olyjohn »

mattl wrote: post #34
wkat4242 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cheap in the US perhaps. Here in Spain even the SE is 579€ and you can get a great budget or midrange Android for much much less. Which will have lot of mod cons the SE doesn't have like a modern bezelless design, amoled and in-screen fingerprint. Usually even a 3,5mm Jack. Most people carry Redmi phones and use wired headphones here. It's absolutely about wealth.

A message from an Android user is no different to a spam text message. I expect in Europe most people use WhatsApp anyway so it’s less of an issue. But in the US, communication with Android users on iOS sucks. Garbage quality media, none of the usual features like reactions or groups or sharing things works well.

Good. I don't want any of that shit to come to me anyways. Please give me more reasons to not use an iPhone.

Re: Nothing Phone says it will hack into iMessage, bring blue bubbles to Android

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Post by olyjohn »

gizajob wrote: post #19
meepmorp wrote: post #13

Do most Android users actually care one way or an another? IMO, it seems like there's a small, if vocal, minority of folks with a deeply weird inferiority complex around blue bubbles and most people don't care at all. None of my Android using friends seem to give a shit.

Android users don't, but apple users do. Part of Apple's "moat". It might seem trivial to you, but people do care about such things.

Well fuck those people. Glad I don't know any of them. They sound shallow as fuck.
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