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EU Parliament Civil Liberties Committee adopts position on CSAR

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Re: EU Parliament Civil Liberties Committee adopts position on CSAR

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you explain big Pharma lobbying to stop reducing drug prices? For example, Democrats who held up drug pricing reforms were the largest beneficiaries of lobbyist money. https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/...

They don't feel strongly ideologically about an issue

You might be right, but having politicians who are not ideologically pro-affordable healthcare is a really sad state of affairs

Re: EU Parliament Civil Liberties Committee adopts position on CSAR

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you explain big Pharma lobbying to stop reducing drug prices? For example, Democrats who held up drug pricing reforms were the largest beneficiaries of lobbyist money. https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/...

The short answer is that we're talking about the EU. Thats a US thing. As far as I can tell looking from the outside the US system is set up so that if you aren't ridiculously wealthy yourself you pretty much need lobbyist money to fund your campaign to get elected.

That's probably true, there is lobbying in the UK so I assume countries within Europe have similar issues but I don't truly know.

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I was upset at the parliament for even considering this and extremely relieved that they chose not to pursue this draconic instrument. That said, we as citizens will have to remain vigilant and let our voices be heard because the onslaught on our privacy is constant from both commercial interests, spy agencies and state actors. These parties have no issue keeping pressure up over decades whereas we the citizens can b…

The EU parliament did its job pretty much 100% correctly in my opinion. Their job is to consider the laws the EU commission suggests and thats what they did. They correctly determined it was a shitty law and voted it down.

In my opinion you should be upset at the EU commission, and especially commissioner Ylva Johansson from Sweden who seems to be the one pushing this stupid stuff.

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I've become so jaded by the EU that was expecting the worst from this, so kudos Let's see how quickly it'll resurface again

I was jaded by this proposal as well, but jaded by the EU in general?

GDPR, forced interoperability from gatekeepers, the 2 year warranty on anything bought online

This attempt at breaking encryption completely stood out with the usual things

The EU seems like the only governmental organization that's working well to improve my life, in my country. Everything else is either decaying or opposing my values.

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I'd love to know who was in favour of the new better proposal and who was in favour of the old proposal. A clear insight into their values. It's EU parliamentary elections next year, I'd nearly argue those supporting this new better proposal would be a good voting choice next year and to steer clear of those in favour of the old proposal.

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Despite the lobbying from American organisations (Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Amazon, Palantir and others who worked with Thorn on this [1][2]) the EU Parliament did the right thing this time. [1] https://www.thorn.org/partnerships/ [2] https://web.archive.org/web/20130420162917/http://www.wearet...

The expert panel for this was truly a sight to behold, with majority representation coming from outside the EU (mostly american, but also canadian, new zealand and australian representation): https://twitter.com/SimoKohonen/status/1722635234116506052

> https://www.patrick-breyer.de/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/SKM...

page 26 (or page 24 in in-document numbering) ... amazing that Thorn was just an "NGO" .. instead of the company that wants to sell filtering tech.

so, can we get the actual expert opinion of these wonderful folk?

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This website is a throwback to a design choice that (thankfully) has mostly died off - choosing a mid-grey for your text, making it much more effort to read. I used to have Stylebot pinned to my extensions to fix it, but haven't had to do it in ages. Designers - please don't do this. (I think it comes from people designing on much higher contrast Apple monitors and not testing on anything else)

Indeed it looks like all the text is grayed out... like "I'm waiting for you to click that damn accept-cookie button before actually showing the page".

Re: EU Parliament Civil Liberties Committee adopts position on CSAR

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Next step would be OS maintainers to make APIs for providing e2e encryption functionality and then app stores requiring these apis to be used for private messaging.

Because you trust closeed-source from Microsoft, Google and Apple? Seriously?

Open standards, open-source code. That's really the only option for code people are supposed to trust.

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