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Lost "Doctor Who" episodes found but owner is reluctant to hand them to BBC

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Re: Lost "Doctor Who" episodes found but owner is reluctant to hand them to BBC

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Post by arp242 »

gonzo41 wrote: post #22
462436347 wrote: post #14

> These collectors were seen as criminals, but now we can see they are really saviours. An amnesty would stop them being frightened of prosecution,” he said. The UK is unusual in that it has no statute of limitations for most crimes besides "summary offenses" (equivalent to US misdemeanors): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limitation_periods_in_the_Unit...

He should give the tapes to the British museum out of spite. They BBC will never get the back and the British Museum doesn't care what crimes were committed as long as their collection grows.

Send the tapes to Greece, Egypt, Nigeria, what-have-you.

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Post by rbanffy »

thatguy0900 wrote: post #12
egorfine wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm such a third party, could do it. I could't care less about restoring BBC history if BBC themselves don't care enough to lay down a legal way for this to happen without my help.

This is how it feels to me. Dump them on a pirate site, no reason to give them to the BBC if they have no interest in trying to get them

Are we sure the copyright belongs to BBC and not the royal family?

Re: Lost "Doctor Who" episodes found but owner is reluctant to hand them to BBC

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Post by rbanffy »

drewcoo wrote: post #16
rbanffy wrote: post #3

The easiest solution would be to send them anonymously to a third party abroad, who'd then proceed to digitise the tapes, returning the originals to the collectors, and hand the resulting files to the BBC. Setting up a trustable network of anonymous relays crossing jurisdictions for physical goods is the hard part, and tends to attract the wrong kind of attention to the ones involved.

> The easiest solution would be to . . . That doesn't meet the goal of amnesty. Before the footage is made available, the people holding that footage have leverage. Once they share it somehow, the leverage is gone and it's unlikely that they'd be given amnesty. In fact, the act of sharing the footage has some nonzero chance of revealing people . . .

They wouldn’t need amnesty if they can never be identified. Also, they could return the BBCs property anonymously and release the digitised versions after that.

Re: Lost "Doctor Who" episodes found but owner is reluctant to hand them to BBC

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Post by lm28469 »

dylan604 wrote: post #27
patmorgan23 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because someone else might want to remember

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I've downloaded shows created before both my parents were even born, and some others not as old but still older than me. I don't think it's the norm but I doubt it's that uncommon

Re: Lost "Doctor Who" episodes found but owner is reluctant to hand them to BBC

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Post by ClassyJacket »

astrange wrote: post #29
Philpax wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you on about

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And so your solution is to scrap public healthcare and make the problem far, far worse. Fucking genius. If something isn't 100% literally perfect in all possible scenarios, we shouldn't do it at all.

I suppose you're in favour of removing airbags from cars and putting lead back in paint, too?

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Post by terminous »

petermcneeley wrote: post #13
walterbell wrote: post #11

Preservers of cultural memory should be rewarded. Canada spent years digitizing classic TV and published the shows on a Youtube channel, then suddenly deleted all the content without notice to archivers, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35716982 . In the absence of social contracts for preservation, we are left with defensive archiving.

Why preserve what you wish not to remember.

Maybe you don't value history, but many people do. The point isn't entertainment, or the kind of entertainment you're imagining. Of course this won't compete on the streaming market. The point is that it is a time capsule of an age we've already forgotten.
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