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Re: Apple asked Amazon to block rival ads

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Amazon knows all about of the garbage being sold on its site but only does something about it if you're a massive tech company who threatens to sue, very cool. I wonder how many of these thumb drives are legit. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=2+tb+thumb+drive&crid=YZ410MSN6L1...

Even more funny that they're called "thumb drives" when that is a brand name.

Re: Apple asked Amazon to block rival ads

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Yes, the very reason for Apple to create the "store-in-store" concept was that they thought that the buying experience for their products was inadequate (both in presentation of the products and qualification of the staff): https://web.archive.org/web/19990210163227/http://product.in... The Amazon storefront simply seems to be an extension of that concept from brick and mortar to online stores. I'm not sure what's su…

I think the difference is that Best Buy retail stores are not a marketplace, there are no third-party sellers in a Best Buy.

In fact, there are, as in much of Big Box retail.

Re: Apple asked Amazon to block rival ads

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If it's true they colluded to remove ads from Apple pages on Amazon, both companies deserve what they get. Why do it sneakily? Why not have a page somewhere on Amazon that says "hey, if you want us to remove ads from your product listings, pay us [10x the total lifetime amount we expect to get in ad revenue from running ads on the page] per product page". Most companies wouldn't do it, so it wouldn't change Amazon's…

It sounds like you are saying that businesses should only be able to sell services that they publicly advertise with prices. For example, if Coca Cola wanted to have a product placement idk the eventual Jok3r movie, would Warner Brothers would need to advertise that service somewhere on the website? Would you see Coca Cola's advertising department calling WB and being "yo, what do we have to do to get poison ivy to have a fridge full of Coca Cola?" be sneaky?

Re: Apple asked Amazon to block rival ads

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the difference is that Best Buy retail stores are not a marketplace, there are no third-party sellers in a Best Buy.

In fact, there are, as in much of Big Box retail.

There's store-within-a-store, but it's not really the same thing as a marketplace, and not the type of thing where any provider dominates the market enough to have a monopolistic power on it.

Re: Apple asked Amazon to block rival ads

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Amazon knows all about of the garbage being sold on its site but only does something about it if you're a massive tech company who threatens to sue, very cool. I wonder how many of these thumb drives are legit. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=2+tb+thumb+drive&crid=YZ410MSN6L1...

Even more funny that they're called "thumb drives" when that is a brand name.

That cat is out of the bag, that term has gone napkin or bandaid.

Re: Apple asked Amazon to block rival ads

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Even more funny that they're called "thumb drives" when that is a brand name.

That cat is out of the bag, that term has gone napkin or bandaid.

Yeah, Trek2000 didn't really defend their mark too much. I suppose J&J probably does because I don't see anyone using Bandaid for non-J&J bandages, at least in the US.

Re: Apple asked Amazon to block rival ads

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post #18

Amazon knows all about of the garbage being sold on its site but only does something about it if you're a massive tech company who threatens to sue, very cool. I wonder how many of these thumb drives are legit. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=2+tb+thumb+drive&crid=YZ410MSN6L1...

my question is why hasn't the FBI seized every Amazon warehouse for knowingly selling counterfeit goods? They do this routinely for smaller businesses selling fake stuff

Re: Apple asked Amazon to block rival ads

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Amazon knows all about of the garbage being sold on its site but only does something about it if you're a massive tech company who threatens to sue, very cool. I wonder how many of these thumb drives are legit. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=2+tb+thumb+drive&crid=YZ410MSN6L1...

Amazon makes money from those garbage companies having an ad war over who gets to deceive the eyeballs of Amazon's customers first, and then takes a cut when it gets sold. Customer Obsession and Earns Trust might be two of Amazon's Leadership Principles, but no principles stand in the way of cold hard cash.

My dad used to say principles are like farts. You can only hold them for so long.

Re: Apple asked Amazon to block rival ads

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Dumb question: why is this not allowed? Presumably, Apple paid Amazon to reduce the number of ads. What's so wrong about that? All companies allow large enterprise customers (who drive high revenue), to have custom / tailored offerings based on their requests.

The issue is primarily about counterfeiting, which is illegal regardless of the companies involved and the deals between them.

Samsung has an Amazon store, and other companies bid for ad spots shown right on the official store page which link to illegal knockoffs of Samsung products. Samsung complains, and Amazon says "sorry we can't help it, that's just how things work".

Then Apple comes along, and Amazon magically cleans up their store page (demonstrating that they have the ability to do so), but leaves the rest of them as-is.

So now the take away is – if you don't sign an exclusive agreement with Amazon they will give counterfeiters full access to your products and customers, and that can be easily challenged in court (which is exactly what the FTC is doing right now).

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