That's exactly what it sounds like. From the article: > Four employees said he sometimes played with a novelty flamethrower and discouraged workers from wearing safety yellow because he dislikes bright colors.
> discouraged workers from wearing safety yellow because he dislikes bright colors
I know for a fact Musk wears hi-vis vests so that sounds at the least hyperbole
Not here defending SpaceX, cannot speak for some of the specific cases like the individual who was sitting on top of a truck to hold a load down. What I don't like though is the lack of real comparison. It reads more like a hit piece against spacex with all the specific examples of cases that tug at the heart. Would like to see some better comparison, I don't know how realistic the space industry average is. How many…
Ultimately, a worker sitting on top of a truck to hold down a load, is a failure of the company: rules and trainings have to be implace to avoid this unsafe behavior, managers, and ultimately the CEO, has to enforce those rules. If that doesn't happen an unsafe culture is promoted, one that leads to accidents.
Not here defending SpaceX, cannot speak for some of the specific cases like the individual who was sitting on top of a truck to hold a load down. What I don't like though is the lack of real comparison. It reads more like a hit piece against spacex with all the specific examples of cases that tug at the heart. Would like to see some better comparison, I don't know how realistic the space industry average is. How many…
That's always the case with space industry (or even any heavy industry), no?
In Germany, workplace injuries have gone continuously down over the decades [1], and at 1,827 per 1000 workers it's significantly less than the US with 2,7 [2]. The difference is pretty certainly due to way less regulations and enforcement in the US combined with way greedier employers. [1] https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/6051/umfrage/... [2] https://www.bls.gov/charts/injuries-and-illnesses/total-nonf…
> In Germany, workplace injuries have gone continuously
In the UK our safety films just had John Cleese standing on a swivel chair. But the Germans had Forklift Driver Klaus [0], which is much more compelling: "Cruel but informative accidents happen". Never have I seen a forklift and a chainsaw cause so much carnage.
Happy to be corrected here with citations, but I'm not sure that regulations are actually what get people fired. It's company policy.
Corporate policy that implements regulations would be my guess. Or, in this case, does not. Other countries are far more into preemptive enforcement of regulations than the USA, but even there things tends to only get better before they get worse. Tesla Grünheide has already racked up at least one amputation, and that's a factory, not a place where they invent new kinds of rockets.
But regulations don't say "fire this person". They're normally far more high level than that, like, "when something bad happens, trigger a corrective and preventative actions process and write down what you found and what you're going to change, if anything".
In Germany, workplace injuries have gone continuously down over the decades [1], and at 1,827 per 1000 workers it's significantly less than the US with 2,7 [2]. The difference is pretty certainly due to way less regulations and enforcement in the US combined with way greedier employers. [1] https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/6051/umfrage/... [2] https://www.bls.gov/charts/injuries-and-illnesses/total-nonf…
> In Germany, workplace injuries have gone continuously In the UK our safety films just had John Cleese standing on a swivel chair. But the Germans had Forklift Driver Klaus [0], which is much more compelling: "Cruel but informative accidents happen". Never have I seen a forklift and a chainsaw cause so much carnage. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forklift_Driver_Klaus_–_The_Fi...
I can't watch that unfortunately but I know someone who should have. I worked at a shitty hardware store when I was a student and someone got an air conditioner dropped on them off a forklift palette. It wasn't secured to it. Poor guy lost his left leg just above the knee.
Not here defending SpaceX, cannot speak for some of the specific cases like the individual who was sitting on top of a truck to hold a load down. What I don't like though is the lack of real comparison. It reads more like a hit piece against spacex with all the specific examples of cases that tug at the heart. Would like to see some better comparison, I don't know how realistic the space industry average is. How many…
This is unquestionably a hit piece. I’ve been to Boca Chica and their safety standards seem leagues ahead of oil and gas.
I've always thought making people work long hours, repeatedly, would have a negative impact on their health. These injuries are far worse than I expected, but then I was only thinking about a desk job. I love what SpaceX and Tesla are doing, but it's difficult to be an Elon fan when people are being seriously hurt because of bad policies.
I'm a fan of what SpaceX and Tesla are trying to achieve in a technical context (cheaper space flight and electrification of transport). Elon is obviously highly instrumental in this happening and should be recognized as such.
But his conduct otherwise has not been respectable and that too should be recognized.
People tend to all all or nothing but the answer is usually somewhere in between.
Not here defending SpaceX, cannot speak for some of the specific cases like the individual who was sitting on top of a truck to hold a load down. What I don't like though is the lack of real comparison. It reads more like a hit piece against spacex with all the specific examples of cases that tug at the heart. Would like to see some better comparison, I don't know how realistic the space industry average is. How many…
Exactly, ie. Qatar had something like 40 deaths during World Cup construction.