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8GB RAM on M3 MacBook Pro 'Analogous to 16GB' on PCs, Claims Apple

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Re: 8GB RAM on M3 MacBook Pro 'Analogous to 16GB' on PCs, Claims Apple

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just put 64 gigs of (fast) memory and a (very fast) 4 TB SSD in my laptop for a total of $600. In the MacBook Pro configurator the equivalent upgrades look like 36GB->64GB RAM: $400 1TB->4TB SSD: $1000

Except you can't upgrade Macs anymore, you need to buy a completely new one.

Same goes for PCs sadly. Soldered on RAM is becoming the norm -- even Lenovo does that on their high-end ThinkPads.

Re: 8GB RAM on M3 MacBook Pro 'Analogous to 16GB' on PCs, Claims Apple

#32
post #27

> Starting at $1,599, [...] 8GB of unified memory. [...] Users can opt for 16GB or 24GB at checkout, but these configuration options cost an extra $200 and $400 at purchase, [...] That's insane. I could upgrade my $1200 laptop, which came with 32GB, to 96GB DDR5 ram for about $300.

What laptop are you using? just curious

Re: 8GB RAM on M3 MacBook Pro 'Analogous to 16GB' on PCs, Claims Apple

#33

This is not news, has been the case since Intel macs, though the rise of Electron apps has reduced the MacOS advantage. I do have an 8GB M1 mini I use for development and the only way to make it run out of memory is to run Docker, otherwise it's perfectly fine.

It's perfectly fine for the Mac's primary use case these days: a thin client into a real computer for performing actual work. We should congratulate Apple for building the world's sexiest VT100 and Wyse WinTerm in one box.

I agree, I've been perfectly happy and even impressed with my 8GB M2 MacBook Air. I have never seen that pop-up but I also use it as a thin client as well. Any heaving lifting should be done on a desktop/server.

Re: 8GB RAM on M3 MacBook Pro 'Analogous to 16GB' on PCs, Claims Apple

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post #32
post #27

> Starting at $1,599, [...] 8GB of unified memory. [...] Users can opt for 16GB or 24GB at checkout, but these configuration options cost an extra $200 and $400 at purchase, [...] That's insane. I could upgrade my $1200 laptop, which came with 32GB, to 96GB DDR5 ram for about $300.

What laptop are you using? just curious

Elitebook 845 G10 with Ryzen 7840HS

Re: 8GB RAM on M3 MacBook Pro 'Analogous to 16GB' on PCs, Claims Apple

#35

I have a 16G M1 and that popup about the system running out of memory comes up frequently. I would do terrible, terrible things to be able to upgrade the RAM. My 2014 Macbook Pro had 16G!

Are you running a VM?

That's the only way I can use 17,179,869,184 bytes of memory.

Re: 8GB RAM on M3 MacBook Pro 'Analogous to 16GB' on PCs, Claims Apple

#36

I have a 16G M1 and that popup about the system running out of memory comes up frequently. I would do terrible, terrible things to be able to upgrade the RAM. My 2014 Macbook Pro had 16G!

I have a 16G M1, and have never ever seen it in those 2 years I have it. I do programming and video editing, and run VMs headless to which I give like 2-4G.

Re: 8GB RAM on M3 MacBook Pro 'Analogous to 16GB' on PCs, Claims Apple

#37

This smells like the MHz comparison of the G4 vs Pentium, when they claimed that their 500Mhz was equivalent to a 1GHz Pentium. There's a tiny nugget of truth surrounded by mostly bullshit. Only this time they put themselves in this position. They should own it, either admit that they couldn't keep their margins otherwise or take the US$ 50 or so profit hit and avoid the bad press on an otherwise great machine.

It actually was true in benchmarks, but Mac OS was in such a bad state at the time that it didn't really matter. It didn't even have real multitasking!

Re: 8GB RAM on M3 MacBook Pro 'Analogous to 16GB' on PCs, Claims Apple

#38

I have a 16G M1 and that popup about the system running out of memory comes up frequently. I would do terrible, terrible things to be able to upgrade the RAM. My 2014 Macbook Pro had 16G!

Are you running a VM? That's the only way I can use 17,179,869,184 bytes of memory.

No. The largest memory hogs are FireFox, Photoshop, and Lightroom Classic.

Re: 8GB RAM on M3 MacBook Pro 'Analogous to 16GB' on PCs, Claims Apple

#39
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's perfectly fine for the Mac's primary use case these days: a thin client into a real computer for performing actual work. We should congratulate Apple for building the world's sexiest VT100 and Wyse WinTerm in one box.

I agree, I've been perfectly happy and even impressed with my 8GB M2 MacBook Air. I have never seen that pop-up but I also use it as a thin client as well. Any heaving lifting should be done on a desktop/server.

Interesting, curious what you're connecting to: a more powerful mac pro, a Windows box, or a Linux box (and is it in the cloud or in your office).

Re: 8GB RAM on M3 MacBook Pro 'Analogous to 16GB' on PCs, Claims Apple

#40
post #36

I have a 16G M1 and that popup about the system running out of memory comes up frequently. I would do terrible, terrible things to be able to upgrade the RAM. My 2014 Macbook Pro had 16G!

I have a 16G M1, and have never ever seen it in those 2 years I have it. I do programming and video editing, and run VMs headless to which I give like 2-4G.

Lucky. I have to restart perhaps once a day/every other day as the UI becomes unresponsive. Sometimes putting the computer to sleep means it restarts by itself, or I have force power it back on.
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