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'Ray, this is a religion': How Bridgewater lost two top hires

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Post by MattPalmer1086 »

paulddraper wrote: post #25
MattPalmer1086 wrote: post #18

Ugh, I had a recruiter approach me a couple of years ago to work for some company that had a "radical openness" culture or something like that. The idea was supposedly that everyones ideas were valid and hierarchy didn't matter and that everyone should challenge anything no matter who they were in the organisation. The way they sold it sounded a bit culty to me, and the potential for abusive behaviour seemed high. Di…

Could it be "radical candor?" [1] [1] https://www.radicalcandor.com/

I honestly can't remember, it's possible.

It sounded like the kind of idea that would either be awesome if done well, or sheer hell if people did what people often do with otherwise good ideas...

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renewiltord wrote: post #9

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>It's always funny when some rag tries to say "X declined to comment". No one is going to comment on some random crap you publish on what's a glorified blog

Strong disagree. I like when people writing articles at least give the other side a chance to comment. It makes me feel the piece is less obviously biased. Of course it can be abused by giving the other side just a dew hours to comment (so basically no real chance), but it's still better than nothing.

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Post by pavlov »

Also in the Vanity Fair there’s an extract from the new book about the time the future FBI director was snooping for employees’ dirty laundry at Dalio’s hedge fund and conducting year-long show trials:

“Inside James Comey’s Bizarre $7M Job as a Top Hedge Fund’s In-House Inquisitor” https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/11/james-comey-dalio-br...

It’s every bit as strange as it sounds.

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Post by liveoneggs »

paulddraper wrote: post #25
MattPalmer1086 wrote: post #18

Ugh, I had a recruiter approach me a couple of years ago to work for some company that had a "radical openness" culture or something like that. The idea was supposedly that everyones ideas were valid and hierarchy didn't matter and that everyone should challenge anything no matter who they were in the organisation. The way they sold it sounded a bit culty to me, and the potential for abusive behaviour seemed high. Di…

Could it be "radical candor?" [1] [1] https://www.radicalcandor.com/

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Way_of_Absolute_Candor

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Post by renewiltord »

Orangeair wrote: post #16
renewiltord wrote: post #9

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> No one is going to comment on some random crap you publish on what's a glorified blog. I have no idea why the article doesn't lead with this, but it's adapted from a book: > Dalio declined to be interviewed for the book from which this article is adapted.

Fair enough. I suppose if one were a rando NYT reporter one would think most people would be thrilled to be interviewed to comment on the book one is writing with no access to the principals.

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Post by 23B1 »

esafak wrote: post #27
23B1 wrote: post #17

It's interesting. I have seen rating systems work – in the military. They're harsh to some, but in some situations, you have to filter out B and C players to keep the A players alive. I do think transparent systems w/360º peer reviews are better than many others. I wonder what else is out there that might work.

How does the military rating system work?

I've seen multiple. The one I like is 'pinks and blues' where you're given two of each - a pink and a blue - and you write out why you think two dudes should get a blue (good) and a bad (pink). If you start accruing a bunch of pinks, there's a problem.

It's very simple and probably wouldn't pass muster with an HR department, but it was effective at getting rid of turds.

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Post by renewiltord »

taway1237 wrote: post #32
renewiltord wrote: post #9

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>It's always funny when some rag tries to say "X declined to comment". No one is going to comment on some random crap you publish on what's a glorified blog Strong disagree. I like when people writing articles at least give the other side a chance to comment. It makes me feel the piece is less obviously biased. Of course it can be abused by giving the other side just a dew hours to comment (so basically no real chanc…

Haha, yes, of course. It's just that it's natural to decline when some guy writing a glorified blog post anthology fills it with "declined to comment" when it's obvious everyone would decline to comment. He's not Walter Isaacson. He's just a low-level reporter at the NYT who mostly publishes GPT-4 level articles on what the current stock price of a bank is.

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Post by whatshisface »

MattPalmer1086 wrote: post #18

Ugh, I had a recruiter approach me a couple of years ago to work for some company that had a "radical openness" culture or something like that. The idea was supposedly that everyones ideas were valid and hierarchy didn't matter and that everyone should challenge anything no matter who they were in the organisation. The way they sold it sounded a bit culty to me, and the potential for abusive behaviour seemed high. Di…

I would have tried to challenge it during the interview, so that if they hired me I'd know they were legitimately pluralistic.

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Post by htrp »

MattPalmer1086 wrote: post #18

Ugh, I had a recruiter approach me a couple of years ago to work for some company that had a "radical openness" culture or something like that. The idea was supposedly that everyones ideas were valid and hierarchy didn't matter and that everyone should challenge anything no matter who they were in the organisation. The way they sold it sounded a bit culty to me, and the potential for abusive behaviour seemed high. Di…

Radical Openness is definitely Bridgewater
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