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Fedora 39 Released

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Re: Fedora 39 Released

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Are Signal and Steam apps from Fedora? Is this a problem specific to Fedora 39?

They are not, but that's not what users care about. See e.g. complains about old apps for Windows being blurry when DPI scaling was introduced.

What I don't get is why apps are still blurry on 4K screens last I tried it on Ubuntu, with 200% fractional scaling. If they're non-blurry on 1080p, shouldn't it be a perfectly linear 1:1 upscale?

Re: Fedora 39 Released

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Can anyone speak to their experience with the atomic/immutable versions of Fedora (Onyx, Silverblue)? It sounds pretty interesting. [0] https://fedoraproject.org/silverblue/

IBM uses Fedora CoreOS / Red Hat CoreOS as the underlying OS for OKD / OpenShift, Red Hat's flagship product, so the bones are solid.

Silverblue works well enough. The biggest drawback is that you need a different development workflow, all container-based, and you have to use Flatpaks for installing Desktop software.

The biggest questions I had while using it were, "Why am I doing this?" and "Is this worth the trade-offs?".

At the end of the day all the benefits I got ended up being theoretical. Is it "cool"? Yea, its really cool. But does it actually solve concrete problems I have when developing software.

In the end, I decided it didn't.

I think its a much different story for using Fedora CoreOS a server. There the benefits are much more straightforward: reliable atomic OS updates, cattle-only servers, infrastructure-as-code deployment by default.

I still probably wouldn't use them in production because they are a niche technology stewarded by IBM, but still, the benefits are more clear.

Re: Fedora 39 Released

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Dynamic triple buffering for GNOME has been postponed again, fractional scaling is nowhere in sight, but they landed

> a new workspace switcher and a much-improved image viewer.

What a joke of a product management. Sometimes I envy guys who can rewrite workspace switchers again and again on Red Hat's money.

Re: Fedora 39 Released

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Can anyone speak to their experience with the atomic/immutable versions of Fedora (Onyx, Silverblue)? It sounds pretty interesting. [0] https://fedoraproject.org/silverblue/

I'm happily using Kinoite (aka the KDE spin of Silverblue). I bounced off of NixOS, and ended up on Kinoite. It's got a few edges to it, but they're pretty minor and the benefits seem to be worth the drawbacks, IMO. I plan on buying a new dev machine on Black Friday-ish and I'll use Kinoite on it too.

Re: Fedora 39 Released

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are not, but that's not what users care about. See e.g. complains about old apps for Windows being blurry when DPI scaling was introduced.

What I don't get is why apps are still blurry on 4K screens last I tried it on Ubuntu, with 200% fractional scaling. If they're non-blurry on 1080p, shouldn't it be a perfectly linear 1:1 upscale?

How is 200% fractional scaling?

Re: Fedora 39 Released

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Can anyone speak to their experience with the atomic/immutable versions of Fedora (Onyx, Silverblue)? It sounds pretty interesting. [0] https://fedoraproject.org/silverblue/

I have been running Silverblue for a couple month now (after years on Debian derivatives) and I can confidently say that it is something you will either love or hate (not much room for middle ground).

If you are the kind of Linux user that treats your OS like a pet, with lots of TLC and endless tweaking to get things "just right", then Silverblue is a terrible choice. It is way more difficult and time-consuming to "hack" stuff together at the system level.

However, if you prefer to treat your core OS as livestock (something rigidly structured and reproducible automatically), then I highly recommend giving Silverblue a try!

As a software developer, I run a lot of random software/dependencies/etc and I have historically struggled with my Linux system stability degrading over time as I add/remove packages and config. My goal with Silverblue is to have a solid base OS that does not suffer from package-drift over time. On top of Silverblue, I use distrobox to run many of my apps/bins in a virtual container. That container is where I do all my "hacking" to get things to work and I consider the container to be expendable. If I start having issues with it working correctly, I can just blow away that container and rebuild it without effective my core system, other containers, or the flatpak apps.

Re: Fedora 39 Released

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Dynamic triple buffering for GNOME has been postponed again, fractional scaling is nowhere in sight, but they landed > a new workspace switcher and a much-improved image viewer. What a joke of a product management. Sometimes I envy guys who can rewrite workspace switchers again and again on Red Hat's money.

Do you envy Sisyphus? Very similar situation, I think.

Re: Fedora 39 Released

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post #33

Dynamic triple buffering for GNOME has been postponed again, fractional scaling is nowhere in sight, but they landed > a new workspace switcher and a much-improved image viewer. What a joke of a product management. Sometimes I envy guys who can rewrite workspace switchers again and again on Red Hat's money.

And still lacking VRR support. All we have is this needlessly drama laden multi-year MR https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/merge_requests/1154

Re: Fedora 39 Released

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Time to run a final upgrade on my LXC instances, snapshot them and give it a try at upgrading in place (has mostly worked since 35, wish me luck).

Re: Fedora 39 Released

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I've been a huge fan of Fedora, and it seems this release does 90% of what I want, but since I'm on a Framework 13 with a weird screen resolution, I once again fall into DPI scaling hell. GNOME locks fractional scaling behind an experimental option, apps like Signal are blurry and apps like Steam just seemingly ignore any attempt to scale properly. For what it's worth KDE seems to handle at least the blurry X scaling…

Fractional Scaling works pretty well out of the box on Ubuntu. It seems they apply patches to support it. As someone who just swapped from Fedora 38 to Ubuntu 23.10, Ubuntu definitely wins in terms of being a polished desktop experience.
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