Site appears to be toast. Belongs in the ought to exist site titled "Hackernews Hug of Death Scrapyard".
Man, cloudflare is like a few minutes.
Maybe their domain registrar features need to be better known.
AI App Graveyard
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#32There are a ton of companies that are basically a wrapper around GPT-4 with some minimal amount of application code. These folks can create impressive demos that wow minimally informed investors, but the reality is that if it took a few weeks to make there's no defensibility. I see the profits in the current AI hype cycle going to the leading foundational model company (why pay for the 2nd best?) and the companies th…
There are still many use-cases where further control offered by open-source models (i.e. fully supporting all constrained text generation techniques) is superior. Stable Diffusion XL fine-tunes with controlnet, regional prompting, and the further extension ecosystem is still better than DALL-E-3 in the hands of skilled users.
But yes, the distance between the leading foundation models and the leading open source foundation models for LLMs seems to be getting farther, not closer.
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#33There are a ton of companies that are basically a wrapper around GPT-4 with some minimal amount of application code. These folks can create impressive demos that wow minimally informed investors, but the reality is that if it took a few weeks to make there's no defensibility. I see the profits in the current AI hype cycle going to the leading foundational model company (why pay for the 2nd best?) and the companies th…
That’s a compelling story. But that doesn’t make it accurate. We are early on and it’s hard to determine how large or small the ecosystem and value that will be created on top. Some went big, like personal computers, the internet, databases, Java, electricity, and so on. Others did not (yet), web3 (maybe), other databases, low code platform, website builders, workstations, many old personal computing systems, etc. Ye…
> Early on could people see the future and know what Ms dos, Oracle, or google would become? No...
In the case of Oracle, yes, because Oracle was created directly to compete with DB2 (which was already a success) but as a product that could run on all the popular platforms of the day. So success of their early RDBMS-based-business was predictable, assuming they could execute.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sorry, could you elaborate? Was it the annoucement from OpenAI?
Yes. He's referring to OpenAI releasing custom GPTs. They're clearly starting to move up the stack.
Seems like broadening their reach to non developers that they were clear about.
Natural language is a new programming language so anyone who can explain what they’re after well enough will eventually be able to get more of what they want.
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#35There are a ton of companies that are basically a wrapper around GPT-4 with some minimal amount of application code. These folks can create impressive demos that wow minimally informed investors, but the reality is that if it took a few weeks to make there's no defensibility. I see the profits in the current AI hype cycle going to the leading foundational model company (why pay for the 2nd best?) and the companies th…
That’s a compelling story. But that doesn’t make it accurate. We are early on and it’s hard to determine how large or small the ecosystem and value that will be created on top. Some went big, like personal computers, the internet, databases, Java, electricity, and so on. Others did not (yet), web3 (maybe), other databases, low code platform, website builders, workstations, many old personal computing systems, etc. Ye…
Good points here.
I certainly see the opportunity for start-ups to break through here. I just don't have much faith in ones where GPT-4 is their core tech.
On the other hand, companies going after the entire vertical where AI is a feature and not the product, or well-funded companies with innovative models that outperform OpenAI is totally a possibility.
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#36Site appears to be toast. Belongs in the ought to exist site titled "Hackernews Hug of Death Scrapyard".
Man, cloudflare is like a few minutes. Maybe their domain registrar features need to be better known.
Many other CDNs are also just few minutes. Or S3+cloudfront (if you've ever done it once before). Or github pages.
I agree with the direction, but wanted to give some ideas different than CF.
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#37Site is timing out unfortunately. HN hug? Unrelated but this sort of thing really shines a light on just how few people click a link before upvoting based purely on the headline.
You can still read it on
https://web.archive.org/web/20231107035016/https://dang.ai/a...
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
That’s a compelling story. But that doesn’t make it accurate. We are early on and it’s hard to determine how large or small the ecosystem and value that will be created on top. Some went big, like personal computers, the internet, databases, Java, electricity, and so on. Others did not (yet), web3 (maybe), other databases, low code platform, website builders, workstations, many old personal computing systems, etc. Ye…
I used to think I wouldn’t rationalize a losing position while I was invested, but after a hedge fund I was in divested from a large position, I was able to see the other way so clearly
This is quite funny. If it weren't for tax (and maybe liquidity in certain situations), this suggests a quarterly "sell everything" day might make sense. You'd sell everything on a friday perhaps, and come monday buy again after having the weekend to freshen your eyes.
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#4090% of startups fail in the first year, I wouldn't expect AI startups to be an exception.