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Re: Men's Shed

#31

This is kind of insulting. Australia does not have domestic violence shelters for men (first very small opened two years ago), but there are "sheds", where you are allowed to work while healing! Even dogs get more resources!

I noticed there was no criticism section on Wikipedia (Hackerspaces has that section). Looking at this comment being downvoted.. Can anyone explain why men sheds should not be critisized?

Re: Men's Shed

#32

I've always wondered why they need to be so sexist. Is it so terrible to have women around? But not so long ago, I saw an article about women trying to open a similar shed but finding there was a funding program which was specifically only able to men's sheds. I'm surprised they can get away with it. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-21/huon-she-shed-project... "While the local men's shed welcomes women, Ms Reardon…

>I've always wondered why they need to be so sexist. Is it so terrible to have women around? I dunno, maybe ask the woman you quoted: "While the local men's shed welcomes women, Ms Reardon said there were many women who wanted their own space. "People like me that would feel intimidated going into what would traditionally be a man's space … want to learn with other women," she said." The women themselves don't want t…

My experience is only that that people are individuals, and whether it's pleasant or educational to have them around or not doesn't have anything to do with gender.

Re: Men's Shed

#33

This is kind of insulting. Australia does not have domestic violence shelters for men (first very small opened two years ago), but there are "sheds", where you are allowed to work while healing! Even dogs get more resources!

I noticed there was no criticism section on Wikipedia (Hackerspaces has that section). Looking at this comment being downvoted.. Can anyone explain why men sheds should not be critisized?

Men only spaces is very inflammatory subject. Bomb threads, SWATing, and so on.. It also leads to uncomfortable questions about women only spaces.

I am not surprised Wikipedia avoids this section.

Re: Men's Shed

#34
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would it be sexist to have men's only spaces for the purposes of men's mental health?

If it's good for men's mental health, wouldn't it be good for women's mental health too? I just don't see how using a community workshop is related to gender.

No, the two sexes are different and we don't heal the same way or doing the same things.

Re: Men's Shed

#35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I noticed there was no criticism section on Wikipedia (Hackerspaces has that section). Looking at this comment being downvoted.. Can anyone explain why men sheds should not be critisized?

Men only spaces is very inflammatory subject. Bomb threads, SWATing, and so on.. It also leads to uncomfortable questions about women only spaces. I am not surprised Wikipedia avoids this section.

> Bomb threads, SWATing, and so on..

You do not appear to have anything rational to add on the subject of Men's Sheds in Australia.

Do you have any evidence of bomb threats or SWATing wrt to Men's Sheds in Australia?

Re: Men's Shed

#36
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would it be sexist to have men's only spaces for the purposes of men's mental health?

If it's good for men's mental health, wouldn't it be good for women's mental health too? I just don't see how using a community workshop is related to gender.

Would this argument hold up in reverse for a women's shelter?

Re: Men's Shed

#37

I've always wondered why they need to be so sexist. Is it so terrible to have women around? But not so long ago, I saw an article about women trying to open a similar shed but finding there was a funding program which was specifically only able to men's sheds. I'm surprised they can get away with it. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-21/huon-she-shed-project... "While the local men's shed welcomes women, Ms Reardon…

>I've always wondered why they need to be so sexist. Is it so terrible to have women around? I dunno, maybe ask the woman you quoted: "While the local men's shed welcomes women, Ms Reardon said there were many women who wanted their own space. "People like me that would feel intimidated going into what would traditionally be a man's space … want to learn with other women," she said." The women themselves don't want t…

Nobody said anyone was horrible. It's just that if a group is very dominantly male or female, you feel a bit like an outcast when you are the other sex joining in. Even if they are super welcoming, it's still feels a bit weird.

Also, each sex tends to have a bit of a difference preference on how a meeting-space should be. For example: Most of my male friends tend to hang out in garages/sheds some of the time. Never seen a woman choosing a those locations.

Re: Men's Shed

#38

This is kind of insulting. Australia does not have domestic violence shelters for men (first very small opened two years ago), but there are "sheds", where you are allowed to work while healing! Even dogs get more resources!

I noticed there was no criticism section on Wikipedia (Hackerspaces has that section). Looking at this comment being downvoted.. Can anyone explain why men sheds should not be critisized?

The absence of a criticism section on a Wikipedia page has nothing to do with whether or not the subject of that page should be criticised..

Re: Men's Shed

#39
post #3

A great idea taken over by cliques of old men who refuse to allow anyone new to take part unless you’re also their age and/or a friend of an existing member. I’m medically retired but <50 and have tried going to multiple just to find stuff to do. Ended up using maker spaces instead which have a much much wider age group and a friendlier environment all round.

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Re: Men's Shed

#40
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would it be sexist to have men's only spaces for the purposes of men's mental health?

If it's good for men's mental health, wouldn't it be good for women's mental health too? I just don't see how using a community workshop is related to gender.

Men behave differently around women, compared to an all-male environment. It's mostly subconscious, but men (especially the older generation) would instinctively put up a tough front while women are present, and would be hesitant to show signs of weakness, so some would have trouble truly opening up. No doubt there are also male health concerns that men would feel more comfortable talking about to other men.

It's not sexist to want men only spaces, just like women only gyms and salons are not sexist.

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