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Re: Sam Bankman-Fried doesn't recall

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post #20

What is amazing is that nobody infiltrated their structure and ran off with the money. There are sophisticated criminal organisations out there that go to much, much more effort to obtain funding. Just to take Hezbollah since it's all over the news recently: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funding_of_Hezbollah#Latin_Ame...

You need knowledge for such a penetration. This kind of internal knowledge is usually only available to people working close to the execs.

Re: Sam Bankman-Fried doesn't recall

#32
post #10

> Behind all the finance sheets and code bases, the fall of FTX was in a way incredibly childish: a nerd posse running away with a bunch of other people’s money in the stupidest and simplest way possible. And yet our bimodal justice system spends huge amount of resources giving this 31yo fraudster every possible chance to escape the consequences, simply because he is a member of the elite.

Probably because he's on trial..

The fact that there's a significant chance that he can get away with totally inept, broad daylight theft of billions of dollars is a major motivation for such crimes.

Millions of Americans aren't afforded such luxuries; they can't afford adequate legal resources, maybe they get manipulated into a bad plea deal. Hence we have a clearly bimodal justice system.

Re: Sam Bankman-Fried doesn't recall

#33
This article has some really great stuff in it but I wish the author would cut the flowery bullshit and most importantly stop trying to make the piece about themselves. I do not care about how much YOU cringed, about the "holy fucking shit" you wrote on YOUR notes, etc. So many journalists nowadays think THEY are the story. Stick to the real story, keep yourself out of it.

Re: Sam Bankman-Fried doesn't recall

#34
post #25

“I found myself reflecting on how smart the average person is. Maybe they don’t know calculus. Maybe they’ll never read Ulysses. Maybe they can’t code. But they definitely know how to identify bullshit when they see it.” How could anyone believe this? “Average” people fall for bullshit all the time.

Think of how smart the average person is. Now realize that half the world is _even smarter_. It blows my mind.

Re: Sam Bankman-Fried doesn't recall

#35
post #10

> Behind all the finance sheets and code bases, the fall of FTX was in a way incredibly childish: a nerd posse running away with a bunch of other people’s money in the stupidest and simplest way possible. And yet our bimodal justice system spends huge amount of resources giving this 31yo fraudster every possible chance to escape the consequences, simply because he is a member of the elite.

Let's focus on giving other people resources so they can have a fair trial, rather than complaining that someone does did get it.

Re: Sam Bankman-Fried doesn't recall

#36
post #25

“I found myself reflecting on how smart the average person is. Maybe they don’t know calculus. Maybe they’ll never read Ulysses. Maybe they can’t code. But they definitely know how to identify bullshit when they see it.” How could anyone believe this? “Average” people fall for bullshit all the time.

My own intuition is that there are people who call bullshit often enough that they are often wrong and falsely accuse others, and there are people who always assume the best intentions and good faith on other actors but often miss being bullshitted, but that overall the accuracy of both groups in sensing and correctly identifying bullshit or non-bullshit is commonly, universally poor, and accurate bullshit-detection is a skill that is held by a minority. And further, that someone like the author who would assess an average person as being good at detecting bullshit is likely the type that thinks everyone is bullshitting all the time (and so is in fact able to evade being bullshitted with some frequency) but also commonly falsely accuses others of bullshitting when the other is operating honestly (not to say the other might not be stupid, or selfish, or naive, or have different values, etc, but not bullshitting). If you accuse everyone of being full of shit all the time, you might avoid signing up for a predatory loan but you'll probably also burn some bridges socially that if you'd known the truth you would have mended.

Re: Sam Bankman-Fried doesn't recall

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post #31
post #20

What is amazing is that nobody infiltrated their structure and ran off with the money. There are sophisticated criminal organisations out there that go to much, much more effort to obtain funding. Just to take Hezbollah since it's all over the news recently: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funding_of_Hezbollah#Latin_Ame...

You need knowledge for such a penetration. This kind of internal knowledge is usually only available to people working close to the execs.

All it took to get almost a million dollars from a customer of a previous employer was to penetrate the e-mail server, collect a list of high-value accounts and a sample billing statement, then to send an e-mail with "updated" banking credentials for a large payment which was coming due.

Re: Sam Bankman-Fried doesn't recall

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Definitely - but it's still notable that he's doing this after voluntarily taking the stand.

Yes, not a lawyer so maybe theres some nuance here but.. I don't get taking the stand voluntarily to just say "I don't recall" endlessly? At some point does the judge tell you to GTFO and strike all your testimony? Can they instruct the jury in some manner harmful to you as a result of your obvious malign intent? Etc..

>I don't get taking the stand voluntarily to just say "I don't recall" endlessly?

He's taking the stand (which is a risk) because his lawyer asks him questions that are favorable to him. The risk comes in because the prosecutor gets to cross examine the witness, which is where all this recall stuff came from.

Re: Sam Bankman-Fried doesn't recall

#39
post #33

This article has some really great stuff in it but I wish the author would cut the flowery bullshit and most importantly stop trying to make the piece about themselves. I do not care about how much YOU cringed, about the "holy fucking shit" you wrote on YOUR notes, etc. So many journalists nowadays think THEY are the story. Stick to the real story, keep yourself out of it.

It'd be one thing if the flowery writing were actually good, but the images don't even make sense.

    as prosecutor Danielle Sassoon went through a brutal line of questioning like a hot buzzsaw through a butter cow
Shouldn't the brutal line of questioning be the buzzsaw, and SBF the butter?

Re: Sam Bankman-Fried doesn't recall

#40
post #25

“I found myself reflecting on how smart the average person is. Maybe they don’t know calculus. Maybe they’ll never read Ulysses. Maybe they can’t code. But they definitely know how to identify bullshit when they see it.” How could anyone believe this? “Average” people fall for bullshit all the time.

Think of how smart the average person is. Now realize that half the world is _even smarter_. It blows my mind.

You're talking about median, not average.
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