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Raspberry Pi 5: available now

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Re: Raspberry Pi 5: available now

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Post by lagniappe »

justin66 wrote: post #20
dividedbyzero wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lots of people buy these on a finite hobby budget.

Is there some missing context here, like "...and they only have ten dollars to spend on hobbies during the entirety of 2023 due to the famine wracking their homeland?" I mean, when you're talking about things (items in your "finite hobby budget") that cost less than a hundred dollars, why are you going to fuss about the "price point?" I am intrigued by how much this appears to matter to people who comment on Raspberr…

There exists life outside of the first world where that 10 dollars is worth more

Re: Raspberry Pi 5: available now

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Post by MrBuddyCasino »

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #6
amelius wrote: post #2

But is it still the most attractive SBC at its price point?

Sadly, yes. You can buy whatever else you want, even cheaper and better today, and after three years, getting a modern supported OS will be a total pain, due to binary blobs, custom drivers, custom "design solutions" etc. RaspberryPi is currently the only SBC where you can take any revision of it and still get fully working(! yes, even wifi, bluetooth, etc.) software for it, even if it's not the newest and the greate…

The first gen Pi Zero W isn't really supported anymore due to the outdated ISA. But other than that, you're right.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5: available now

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Post by timthorn »

justin66 wrote: post #20
dividedbyzero wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lots of people buy these on a finite hobby budget.

Is there some missing context here, like "...and they only have ten dollars to spend on hobbies during the entirety of 2023 due to the famine wracking their homeland?" I mean, when you're talking about things (items in your "finite hobby budget") that cost less than a hundred dollars, why are you going to fuss about the "price point?" I am intrigued by how much this appears to matter to people who comment on Raspberr…

If you're a child not earning your own money, price point matters enormously. I remember rarely ordering electronic components from Maplin because of the P&P charge which was massive compared to my pocket money.

Though I did get a buzz from my first CASHTEL order: https://worldradiohistory.com/UK/Mapelin/Maplin%20Electronic...

Re: Raspberry Pi 5: available now

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Post by peppercat10 »

justin66 wrote: post #20
dividedbyzero wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lots of people buy these on a finite hobby budget.

Is there some missing context here, like "...and they only have ten dollars to spend on hobbies during the entirety of 2023 due to the famine wracking their homeland?" I mean, when you're talking about things (items in your "finite hobby budget") that cost less than a hundred dollars, why are you going to fuss about the "price point?" I am intrigued by how much this appears to matter to people who comment on Raspberr…

Inexpensive isn't a fixed value. A hobbyist can be someone able to splurge thousands on tech because they find it fun, but they may as well just be someone who only has 50€ at the end of the month and wants to tinker with a microcomputer they read about online.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5: available now

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Post by CyberDildonics »

joshstrange wrote: post #29

And they are promptly out of stock, I assume. I've owned every Raspberry Pi since the first one but I think the 4 was my last one. They are fun to tinker with with but not great for long-term use in my experience. I felt like I had to babysit it way too often, it absolutely wasn't a "setup an forgot" device, again in my experience. It'd be rock solid for 2-3 months then randomly stop working, rinse and repeat. A litt…

I've had a pi 4 running pi hole untouched for multiple years.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5: available now

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Post by esskay »

joshstrange wrote: post #29

And they are promptly out of stock, I assume. I've owned every Raspberry Pi since the first one but I think the 4 was my last one. They are fun to tinker with with but not great for long-term use in my experience. I felt like I had to babysit it way too often, it absolutely wasn't a "setup an forgot" device, again in my experience. It'd be rock solid for 2-3 months then randomly stop working, rinse and repeat. A litt…

I've used Pi's dating back to the first one (even had one from the first batch manually packaged up by Eben and co). They're good, but arent without their issues. Power management has been a consistent problem with every single Pi. That combined with the Raspberry Pi Trading Co's behaviour over the last couple of years made me move to alternatives.

Once an 8GB pi cost more than an i3 or i5 mini pc that is capable of being upgraded it became completely pointless even considering them.

The only things I now have running on Pi's is my PiHole on an old Pi 2 - it's been flawless for years, and a Pi 3 that handles humidity detection in the utility room and turns on an extractor fan.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5: available now

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Post by esskay »

amelius wrote: post #11
peppercat10 wrote: post #9

I wonder if the RPi5 is finally enough for browsing the web and watching media without hiccups. My experience with RPi4 was too sluggish.

Which is kind of silly because a cheap chinese phone of $100 can play media without problems, and it includes a screen.

The Pi's a bit limited due to its pretty terrible I/O performance, finicky power system and the insistance on sticking with old broadcom chips.

The broadcom thing made sense to begin with, they got a great deal on the pricing. But with the likes of the Rock Pro being pretty much on a price parallel now (and higher performing) it no longer makes sense.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5: available now

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Post by eropple »

CyberDildonics wrote: post #35
joshstrange wrote: post #29

And they are promptly out of stock, I assume. I've owned every Raspberry Pi since the first one but I think the 4 was my last one. They are fun to tinker with with but not great for long-term use in my experience. I felt like I had to babysit it way too often, it absolutely wasn't a "setup an forgot" device, again in my experience. It'd be rock solid for 2-3 months then randomly stop working, rinse and repeat. A litt…

I've had a pi 4 running pi hole untouched for multiple years.

Mine runs the Unifi controller and PiHole on a Pi 3 and it has survived, untouched, across four separate moves. Helps to properly tune logging to not over-wear the SD card.

My three Orange Pi 5's are in my home k8s cluster (mostly as local GitHub Actions arm64 builders, but also have m.2 storage for Longhorn and run the occasional one-off) will probably tick along without being looked at again for years.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5: available now

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Post by esskay »

amelius wrote: post #2

But is it still the most attractive SBC at its price point?

Technically yes but in most cases you dont need an sbc. An old Lenovo Thinkcentre or Dell OptiPlex Micro can end up being cheaper by the time you add all the additional expenses onto the pi (storage, power, case, etc). The micropc's are also infinately better performing and are upgradable.
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