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Re: Leisure Suit Larry

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The game has no major female characters who aren't hookers. No arguing that LSL has its place in gaming history, but it doesn't have a place in a future that is trying its hardest to remove objectification of women from society. EDIT: The down voting button is not a disagree button. If you disagree, reply!

There is pretty good evidence that people are able to differentiate fiction from reality.

If we apply the idea that game worlds should be moral, what about GTA?

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I find it quite disturbing that so many HN posters think sex with a prostitute is consensual.

If a woman chooses to be a prostitute, and chooses to engage with a "John", then heck yes it's consensual. That's what that word means . And is there plenty of evidence that some women choose to be prostitutes (no gun pointed to their head, they have other employment options, etc.)? Heck yes. Not even controversial. Are some women forced to do it? Yes, of course. So in those cases it is not consensual. If it's not co…

So prostitution is consensual, except when it's not. I would call that not consensual.

Re: Leisure Suit Larry

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I wrote an iPhone game that's extremely like Leisure Suit Larry, about a year or two ago. Same spirit and game mechanics. Called "The Adventures of Khaki Pants Pete". Pretty much a nod to LSL, even the name was a tongue-in-cheek reference to it's name. I did it under contract for a dev shop that in turn did it for the company that owns the Klondike Bar. A lot of people said it was pretty fun. I thought it was fun. An…

All of what you have said certainly sounds great for your game.

It sounds as though the only thing missing from KPP may have been fully voiced characters. Tough to tell -- but, presuming that were the case, would alone be a drastic difference.

Pile on top of that the nostalgia, association with the character and franchise, and every other intrinsic benefit of a genuine over imitation and it becomes a different conversation.

*edit to correct acronym

Re: Leisure Suit Larry

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If a woman chooses to be a prostitute, and chooses to engage with a "John", then heck yes it's consensual. That's what that word means . And is there plenty of evidence that some women choose to be prostitutes (no gun pointed to their head, they have other employment options, etc.)? Heck yes. Not even controversial. Are some women forced to do it? Yes, of course. So in those cases it is not consensual. If it's not co…

So prostitution is consensual, except when it's not. I would call that not consensual .

You have a funny sense of logic then. Isn't it possible to be consensual in some cases and not in others?

If I said "In some cases it is legal to download a video and in some cases it is not", would you call that "never legal to download a video"? The fact that I can't legally download a movie currently in the theater shouldn't affect me from legally downloading a video licensed under a creative commons license.

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Got any scribbles to share? Sounds really interesting.

Have a look if you're interested: http://lauradesign.com.au/on-fire http://lauradesign.com.au/to-the-bat-cave http://lauradesign.com.au/what-the-rock-is-that I've made an objc framework for quest games, ready to go, just need lots of artwork. Maybe we'll finish it one day...

Too bad the project has stalled... these look great.

Re: Leisure Suit Larry

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I'm thinking a film would be better as Larry hits the social networks and stumbles across a plot to spike drinks city-wide, something mixing American Pie, James Bond and Austin Powers - with/without CGI females?

Re: Leisure Suit Larry

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post #13

The game has no major female characters who aren't hookers. No arguing that LSL has its place in gaming history, but it doesn't have a place in a future that is trying its hardest to remove objectification of women from society. EDIT: The down voting button is not a disagree button. If you disagree, reply!

Just as most FPS games have no male characters who aren't steroid-addled loons and/or cannon fodder. It's only a game. Lighten up!

Re: Leisure Suit Larry

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I find it quite disturbing that so many HN posters think sex with a prostitute is consensual.

If a woman chooses to be a prostitute, and chooses to engage with a "John", then heck yes it's consensual. That's what that word means . And is there plenty of evidence that some women choose to be prostitutes (no gun pointed to their head, they have other employment options, etc.)? Heck yes. Not even controversial. Are some women forced to do it? Yes, of course. So in those cases it is not consensual. If it's not co…

People trafficking is a huge business with profits for organised crime of over $30billion.

Significant numbers of women are forced into sex work in countries across the world.

(http://www.unglobalcompact.org/docs/issues_doc/labour/Forced...)

Even if the person is not trafficked there are consent issues around addiction: Can a person addicted to a substance make a free informed choice? Here's some research showing that many people involved in prostitution are also drug users. (While this research isn't great it also references a lot of earlier research)

(http://myweb.dal.ca/mgoodyea/Documents/Health%20and%20wellbe...)

In theory there's nothing wrong with someone buying or selling sex. In practice there are often horrible problems.

Re: Leisure Suit Larry

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One interesting fact: Leisure Suit Larry is pretty much directly based on the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softporn_Adventure text adventure game. If you try it, you'll find the plot and the surroundings very familiar. Personally I discovered this while reading http://www.amazon.com/Hackers-Computer-Revolution-Anniversar... which I recommend to anyone.

Wow... according to Wikipedia, the women on the box were all employees of On-Line Systems, the precursor to Sierra. One of them is a bookkeeper! I'd be curious as to how the convinced them to pose naked on the box.

The Digital Antiquarian wrote some interesting blog posts on On-Line Systems and Softporn back in February (with screenshots!). This blog is a great read for info on this and other early adventure games and their creators.

http://www.filfre.net/2012/02/

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