I don't know why we can't just force everyone to show post tax/fees price upfront. It's complete bullshit that every restaurant bill comes with 3 different taxes.
Bill to ban hidden fees in California signed into law
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Re: Bill to ban hidden fees in California signed into law
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#33Is that like "convenience fee" or that sort of crap such as on Ticketmaster? If so, this is amazing! Make it NA-wide please :) haha
Re: Bill to ban hidden fees in California signed into law
#34> Hidden fees are fees in which a seller uses an artificially low headline price to attract a customer and usually either discloses additional required fees in smaller print, or reveals additional unavoidable charges later in the buying process. Like tips?
Expected tips are known up front, they are variable, and I certainly think it's totally fine to not tip in places where it's not usually expected, "flipping around the iPad" be damned.
Re: Bill to ban hidden fees in California signed into law
#35Is that like "convenience fee" or that sort of crap such as on Ticketmaster? If so, this is amazing! Make it NA-wide please :) haha
Re: Bill to ban hidden fees in California signed into law
#36I don't know why we can't just force everyone to show post tax/fees price upfront. It's complete bullshit that every restaurant bill comes with 3 different taxes.
I disagree. Note the California bill specifically exempts taxes from this "upfront pricing" requirement. The reason I think listing taxes separately is OK is because (a) it is not something that the business itself has any choice over, and (b) all businesses have to tax the same for equivalent services. I think listing the taxes separately serves an important purpose to remind the purchaser about where your payments…
Re: Bill to ban hidden fees in California signed into law
#37> Hidden fees are fees in which a seller uses an artificially low headline price to attract a customer and usually either discloses additional required fees in smaller print, or reveals additional unavoidable charges later in the buying process. Like tips?
And sales tax, CA “paint disposal fees”, CA bottle fees, and all the other crap CA (and municipalities) tack onto their bills?
Re: Bill to ban hidden fees in California signed into law
#38Just need other states to follow suit. However, I personally haven’t dealt with hidden fees and don’t know how prevalent they are in the US. Is it a widespread issue? I suppose none of the companies I do business with have them.
Have you been to a sit-down restaurant recently? Where I live (major southeast US city) there's a 50/50 chance there will be some random bullshit fee (sometimes even more than one!) tacked onto the bill (and I'm not talking about tax or a tip).
The bogus fees are always taxed, and then the full amount is used to compute a recommended tip (even at food kiosks.)
Re: Bill to ban hidden fees in California signed into law
#39> Hidden fees are fees in which a seller uses an artificially low headline price to attract a customer and usually either discloses additional required fees in smaller print, or reveals additional unavoidable charges later in the buying process. Like tips?
I guess tips are technically not 'unavoidable'.
Re: Bill to ban hidden fees in California signed into law
#40We could learn from for example Japan where there is no cents and all fees included so 5000 Yen is 5000 yen no tip no tax no fees no cents it's really cortisol reducing.