There's a reason we wear tuxedos to weddings. Not because it's intrinsically better than a tracksuit, but because it sends a specific message. Social conventions have meaning whether you like it or not, and a nice landing page or PowerPoint have meaning too. Also, as van der Rohe used to say "God is in the details"
Can You Customize My Startup's Login Page?
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#32I too once thought "Why don't girls like me for who I am, why do I have to dress nice and make myself presentable, this is just a façade and I want them to love me for who I am inside", but then I grew up and understood that appearances matter and there's no point in fighting people's feelings. You might say "don't worry buddy, my startup is really good and effective, don't mind the messy styling and presentation" bu…
Plus a quick shower once or twice a week
or daily depending on the climate ;)
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#33I too once thought "Why don't girls like me for who I am, why do I have to dress nice and make myself presentable, this is just a façade and I want them to love me for who I am inside", but then I grew up and understood that appearances matter and there's no point in fighting people's feelings. You might say "don't worry buddy, my startup is really good and effective, don't mind the messy styling and presentation" bu…
Related: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27581391
Do you have that bookmarked, or just really good at searching?
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#34User interface design and polish is a proxy measure of the quality of the entire product.
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#35This is poor advice. Lots of people make a quick judgement on your trustworthiness based on whether you at least have adequate design. If they turn away in 200 ms because of poor design, they will never be able to evaluate what your true value proposition is. Many decisions in a B2B context are defensively made, so as to avoid the risk of looking stupid in the future if things don't work out. Like the old saying, nob…
Yep. It takes so little time/money to tidy these pages and people notice when you haven't and it counts against you.
You could just as easily get the opposite effect: if the login page is polished and snazzy, the user may well have the same expectation of the product itself, and every sharp edge will be that much more visible.
If the login page is simple and generic, the message is way toned down. Similar to the advice of not polishing the front-end too much if the backend barely works because clients will expect that a finished interface means a finished product.
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#36I too once thought "Why don't girls like me for who I am, why do I have to dress nice and make myself presentable, this is just a façade and I want them to love me for who I am inside", but then I grew up and understood that appearances matter and there's no point in fighting people's feelings. You might say "don't worry buddy, my startup is really good and effective, don't mind the messy styling and presentation" bu…
Plus a quick shower once or twice a week
Wow that’s really wanting to make a good impression.
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#37> There is no time for polishing your slide deck.
Horrible horrible advice. Agree on the login page etc.. but your sales stuff needs to be on point. I see this from the other perspective, working at a big company. The smaller players never get their foot in the door because they don't know how to talk to us. And they don't optimize their decks toward the audience.
If the talk is not about they customer, why should your customer care?
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#38This is poor advice. Lots of people make a quick judgement on your trustworthiness based on whether you at least have adequate design. If they turn away in 200 ms because of poor design, they will never be able to evaluate what your true value proposition is. Many decisions in a B2B context are defensively made, so as to avoid the risk of looking stupid in the future if things don't work out. Like the old saying, nob…
> top comment on ycombinator dot news doesn't have the slightest clue about modern IT contracting not surprised at all
Not only is the comment more nuanced and helpful than the original article, it also quite easily holds up against ye olde yOu dOnT kNoW sTufF argument.
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#39This seems like bad advice... It maybe works this way if you really have some absolutely amazing product idea.
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#40User interface design and polish is a proxy measure of the quality of the entire product.
not only quality, but also the care you put in