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Nobel Prize in Physics Awarded to Agostini, Krausz, and L’Huillier

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Re: Nobel Prize in Physics Awarded to Agostini, Krausz, and L’Huillier

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Post by noobermin »

There is some nice sweet irony here. Very marginal inside baseball. I know of one of the recipients although indirectly. I felt like their group was kept around their university physics dept because they were known to be good in that field, while generally their colleagues were generally not respected as their physics (which was derisively deemed "AMO" as if it were an epithet) was not seen as "fundamental" enough by the particle physics people who held high administrative positions in the department. Fast forward a few years, and first Gerard Morou and Donna Strickland and Authur Ashkin got the Nobel for CPA and optical trapping, and now we have a nobel for research into attosecond physics.

There was a nobel prize for the Higgs, but SUSY and all the other sorts of things particle physicists hinged on...well that didn't peter out, did it?

Re: Nobel Prize in Physics Awarded to Agostini, Krausz, and L’Huillier

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Post by pyb »

noobermin wrote: post #31

There is some nice sweet irony here. Very marginal inside baseball. I know of one of the recipients although indirectly. I felt like their group was kept around their university physics dept because they were known to be good in that field, while generally their colleagues were generally not respected as their physics (which was derisively deemed "AMO" as if it were an epithet) was not seen as "fundamental" enough by…

Surprising/doubtful, never heard of AMO physics being marginalised anywhere.

Re: Nobel Prize in Physics Awarded to Agostini, Krausz, and L’Huillier

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Post by urthor »

noobermin wrote: post #31

There is some nice sweet irony here. Very marginal inside baseball. I know of one of the recipients although indirectly. I felt like their group was kept around their university physics dept because they were known to be good in that field, while generally their colleagues were generally not respected as their physics (which was derisively deemed "AMO" as if it were an epithet) was not seen as "fundamental" enough by…

Academic politics is something else.

I thought for awhile those guys got lucky and skip office politics.

Then I realize that PhD level IQs + pressure to get into the fancy journals means that the politics is 古典小說 tier.

Re: Nobel Prize in Physics Awarded to Agostini, Krausz, and L’Huillier

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Post by mambru »

scandinavian wrote: post #30
solarist wrote: post #8

L’Huillier, who became the fifth woman to win the physics prize, was teaching when she received the call from the committee, having the advantage of being in the same time zone as the committee. (On a side note, Bing chat already knows now that she won the prize. Color me impressed.)

> (On a side note, Bing chat already knows now that she won the prize. Color me impressed.) It actually doesn't. Bing searches for your query and uses plain old search results as extra context for the actual LLM. GPT-4 still has the same knowledge cutoff as when the model was last trained. Here's what it feeds to the model when searching for "nobel prize in physics 2023": https://pastebin.com/raw/MhW4EmTx

How are you getting this? I is it visible to the browser (client)?

Re: Nobel Prize in Physics Awarded to Agostini, Krausz, and L’Huillier

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Post by dotnet00 »

ivan_gammel wrote: post #20
v3ss0n wrote: post #13

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It is not how it works. First, they haven’t really made yet a verified discovery. They may be into something but years may pass before it will be designated as a scientific breakthrough. Then their work must be considered influential enough so that they will be nominated by someone who can do that. Then they must be selected by the committee. It is a long journey and many other discoveries are being made along the wa…

To further add to this, one of the fastest Nobel prizes in Physics was also for high temperature superconductivity in 1987, awarded less than 2 years after the discovery was made public (the other which ties with it being the 1957 prize for parity violation).

So even if LK-99 had been easily verified to be a true room temperature superconductor, they'd probably be looking at the 2024 Nobel.

Re: Nobel Prize in Physics Awarded to Agostini, Krausz, and L’Huillier

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Post by daniel-s »

urthor wrote: post #33
noobermin wrote: post #31

There is some nice sweet irony here. Very marginal inside baseball. I know of one of the recipients although indirectly. I felt like their group was kept around their university physics dept because they were known to be good in that field, while generally their colleagues were generally not respected as their physics (which was derisively deemed "AMO" as if it were an epithet) was not seen as "fundamental" enough by…

Academic politics is something else. I thought for awhile those guys got lucky and skip office politics. Then I realize that PhD level IQs + pressure to get into the fancy journals means that the politics is 古典小說 tier.

The Chinese translates to, "classical novels," according to Google.

Re: Nobel Prize in Physics Awarded to Agostini, Krausz, and L’Huillier

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Post by nuccy »

HerculePoirot wrote: post #35

> Prize share: 1/3 (x 3) Can someone elaborate on these weights ? Are there occurrences where the attribution weights are different between laureates ?

Yes, if a Nobel prize is given for two different topics (for three people, first person - one topic, other two - another topic) then 1/2, 1/4, 1/4 shares will be assigned, for example the prize in physics in 2019 [1].

1. https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2019/summary/

Re: Nobel Prize in Physics Awarded to Agostini, Krausz, and L’Huillier

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Post by HerculePoirot »

urthor wrote: post #33
noobermin wrote: post #31

There is some nice sweet irony here. Very marginal inside baseball. I know of one of the recipients although indirectly. I felt like their group was kept around their university physics dept because they were known to be good in that field, while generally their colleagues were generally not respected as their physics (which was derisively deemed "AMO" as if it were an epithet) was not seen as "fundamental" enough by…

Academic politics is something else. I thought for awhile those guys got lucky and skip office politics. Then I realize that PhD level IQs + pressure to get into the fancy journals means that the politics is 古典小說 tier.

In french academic circles, we use the word "mandarin" to refer to a powerful academic figure.
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