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FamilyLeaf's (YC W12) Y Combinator Application

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Re: FamilyLeaf's (YC W12) Y Combinator Application

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Direct link to the app (PDF): http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19699329/FamilyLeaf_YC_application.p... P.S. Wow, small world. I went to the same high school as you guys. Good luck with FamilyLeaf, I'm now a big fan!

Dude! Interlake?? We should catch up! founders@familyleaf.com We're also now a big fan of you!

Ya, the good ol' Saints! Though, I graduated in '04.

(I read in your YC app that you were from Bellevue so I Googled you and saw that you went to IHS. :)

Re: FamilyLeaf's (YC W12) Y Combinator Application

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not saying that there should be hard rules. Just that there is a stigma there, and that it is there for a reason. Would you invest in a company with technical founders who got high every day?

Pot wouldn't be a factor in my investment decision; it would depend on the quality of work they did. I don't think drugs are incompatible with being a responsible and productive person. There would be downsides to high profile drug use, like what happened to Sean Parker at Facebook, where presumably there was fear that the LPs in various investors would raise issues. People can be useless fucktards with or without dr…

I don't think drugs are incompatible with being a responsible and productive person either. I think that they are negatively correlated with being a responsible and productive person. I think a search will turn up a lot of evidence to support that.

Pot isn't the worst thing ever, but it isn't going to help you start a business or become a great programmer. While you are high, you will be worse at reasoning and your working memory won't be great. This makes it harder to write code. There is also a legal risk, justified or not.

Drugs are a frustrating topic to debate. On one side there is a huge amount of misinformation intended to scare people away from drug use. Then, in reaction to that and coming out of the cognitive dissonance of millions of people doing something that they know isn't good for them, there is a ton of 'pot is good for you because it comes from the earth' bs on the other side. I think people on the internet (and apparently on HN) tend to be in the latter group, and I feel like it is worth pointing out the downsides.

Re: FamilyLeaf's (YC W12) Y Combinator Application

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Too bad YC got rid of the "if you were an animal, what would you be, and why" question, which was on the Dropbox-era application.

We never asked that. The question you're probably thinking of is: Tell us in one or two sentences something about each founder that shows he or she is an "animal," in the sense described in How to Start a Startup.

I loved that question.

Re: FamilyLeaf's (YC W12) Y Combinator Application

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We never asked that. The question you're probably thinking of is: Tell us in one or two sentences something about each founder that shows he or she is an "animal," in the sense described in How to Start a Startup.

I loved that question.

Out of curiosity what did you say?

Re: FamilyLeaf's (YC W12) Y Combinator Application

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I loved that question.

Out of curiosity what did you say?

  "Animals? We're a freaking zoo.

  Andy: When Paul described the type of person whom he 
  believes is an animal at his "How to Start a Startup"  
  talk, Andy was the first person of whom I (Steve) thought.

  Steve: Steve regularly works extra hours at his current 
  programming job, even when over-time isn't an option (i.e.   
  working for free) to fix nagging bugs. At school, Steve 
  often works late nights with Computer Science friends   
  helping them get assignments working.

  Alexis: See current schedule. When it comes to design, 
  Alexis literally won't rest until every pixel is aligned--
  sleep deprivation is the status quo and when it comes to 
  working in general, coffee makes sure he's the last one to 
  go to sleep at night and the first one up in the morning."
http://alexisohanian.com/our-y-combinator-summer-05-applicat...

Re: FamilyLeaf's (YC W12) Y Combinator Application

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Not that I care, but now the whole world know you got suspended for selling weed. This information cannot be good for you or your company, considering your family-oriented userbase

I know. Now that I know that for a fact, it does say much about the founder of a website that I'm supposed to trust the privacy of my family and data wouldn't be sold because the site is dying, no one wants to pay for the product and ads isn't bringing any much to keep the site going.

Re: FamilyLeaf's (YC W12) Y Combinator Application

#38

Thanks for putting up the application. I could clearly see how you guys aren't afraid to "break some laws" i.e. data scrapping, getting free food, and even weed selling!

Thanks! Some of the risks we've taken have definitely paid off, and the ones that we haven't we don't regret taking.

Re: FamilyLeaf's (YC W12) Y Combinator Application

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I hate to be that guy... but I'm not impressed by this application. At all. I am aware that YC is looking for adventurous founders who aren't afraid to bend the rules in their favor - or break them outright. I can appreciate that. These guys were clearly aware of that and it seems like they developed their responses accordingly. They deliberately showed their mischievous side to game the system. And then they released their yc application to further game the (pr) system. I guess this is a big part of what startups are about, so well played. I'm interested to see where this company goes.

Edit : should have said thanks in advance for the downvotes. Criticism is not accepted on hn these days.

Re: FamilyLeaf's (YC W12) Y Combinator Application

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dude! Interlake?? We should catch up! founders@familyleaf.com We're also now a big fan of you!

Ya, the good ol' Saints! Though, I graduated in '04. (I read in your YC app that you were from Bellevue so I Googled you and saw that you went to IHS. :)

Can't find your contact info anywhere!
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