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Case study: Rapid recovery from autism after treatment of aspergillus (2020)

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Re: Case study: Rapid recovery from autism after treatment of aspergillus (2020)

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Post by metabagel »

gremlinsinc wrote: post #20
fnordpiglet wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Autism spectrum disorder isn’t a disease like COVID with a known cause. There are likely many things that lead to symptoms consistent with ASD. According to the link the mold infection has biomarkers, and presumably it’s possible that some people who have this infection and ASD can be treated for the infection and might see improvement. However I don’t think the article implies in any way that ASD is caused by mold i…

everything is connected, my mom believed my brother's ASD was because of vaccines, I didn't have much of an opinion till I researched it years later and learned it was based on one cooks theories, but this seems like a more sound research study, albeit a small sample size. I'm self diagnosed (3 of my friends with ASD told me I'm probably am on spectrum, because I over share and don't shut up about a subject I like.),…

I would guess microbiome over any chemical or plastics being a major factor.

Re: Case study: Rapid recovery from autism after treatment of aspergillus (2020)

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Post by squigz »

meepmorp wrote: post #27
the_only_law wrote: post #22

Lol https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Shaw_(laboratory_own... Leave it to HN to fall for grifters, but then again I suppose this must just probably just a massive conspiracy by the big bad Illuminati or something to profit off mainstream understanding of autism and we should trust the “science” this time. (To be fair, I can’t find anything that points to the main author being nearly on the same level of quacker…

Just because someone has a history of being deceitful and making up things to further their own agenda, that doesn't mean we should discount everything they say - especially when it's an extraordinary, n=1 result in the case of a complex disorder. And honestly, it's kind of disrespectful to bring up someone's history of grifting in this context. We should trust each other more, not less, and that starts with believin…

Are you serious? That is literally exactly what we should.

Re: Case study: Rapid recovery from autism after treatment of aspergillus (2020)

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Post by seti0Cha »

fnordpiglet wrote: post #14
n3storm wrote: post #7

Come on people, one case? Was he really properly diagnosed of ASD? How did this get so front page up after all covid and colloidal silver, MMS or hydroxychloroquine

Autism spectrum disorder isn’t a disease like COVID with a known cause. There are likely many things that lead to symptoms consistent with ASD. According to the link the mold infection has biomarkers, and presumably it’s possible that some people who have this infection and ASD can be treated for the infection and might see improvement. However I don’t think the article implies in any way that ASD is caused by mold i…

When my son was diagnosed with autism a quarter century or so ago, we would see claims like this popping up now and again. At first we would get excited, but over time we learned to ignore them. Desperate parents make easy targets for grifters and quacks so you have to expect this kind of thing. The worst part is when well-meaning family and friends keep excitedly sending you articles or giving advising you on these exciting new treatments.

Re: Case study: Rapid recovery from autism after treatment of aspergillus (2020)

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Post by hn_throwaway_99 »

the_only_law wrote: post #22

Lol https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Shaw_(laboratory_own... Leave it to HN to fall for grifters, but then again I suppose this must just probably just a massive conspiracy by the big bad Illuminati or something to profit off mainstream understanding of autism and we should trust the “science” this time. (To be fair, I can’t find anything that points to the main author being nearly on the same level of quacker…

Agree with what you've said, but I think this post is also a lesson in how grifters try to "legitimize" their schemes. Look, this paper comes from "nih.gov". I mean, the National Institutes of Health is surely a reputable source! Point being it's not immediately apparent that pretty much anyone can get a case report published like this. If the report was instead posted a on Great Plains Laboratory blog, I think folks would have been more critical. Obscuring the origin of dubious reports is a classic technique that you see in Snopes entries all the time: eventually something gets repeated enough that it is taken as fact even if nobody can remember where it came from in the first place (e.g. "you should drink 8 glasses of water a day" is made up bullshit).

Re: Case study: Rapid recovery from autism after treatment of aspergillus (2020)

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Post by hn_throwaway_99 »

meepmorp wrote: post #27
the_only_law wrote: post #22

Lol https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Shaw_(laboratory_own... Leave it to HN to fall for grifters, but then again I suppose this must just probably just a massive conspiracy by the big bad Illuminati or something to profit off mainstream understanding of autism and we should trust the “science” this time. (To be fair, I can’t find anything that points to the main author being nearly on the same level of quacker…

Just because someone has a history of being deceitful and making up things to further their own agenda, that doesn't mean we should discount everything they say - especially when it's an extraordinary, n=1 result in the case of a complex disorder. And honestly, it's kind of disrespectful to bring up someone's history of grifting in this context. We should trust each other more, not less, and that starts with believin…

Can decide if I should upvote this because it's great satire, or downvote it because these days it feels like half the arguments you see online are proposed sincerely but they sound like sarcasm to me.

Re: Case study: Rapid recovery from autism after treatment of aspergillus (2020)

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Post by [deleted] »

meepmorp wrote: post #27
the_only_law wrote: post #22

Lol https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Shaw_(laboratory_own... Leave it to HN to fall for grifters, but then again I suppose this must just probably just a massive conspiracy by the big bad Illuminati or something to profit off mainstream understanding of autism and we should trust the “science” this time. (To be fair, I can’t find anything that points to the main author being nearly on the same level of quacker…

Just because someone has a history of being deceitful and making up things to further their own agenda, that doesn't mean we should discount everything they say - especially when it's an extraordinary, n=1 result in the case of a complex disorder. And honestly, it's kind of disrespectful to bring up someone's history of grifting in this context. We should trust each other more, not less, and that starts with believin…

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Re: Case study: Rapid recovery from autism after treatment of aspergillus (2020)

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Post by [deleted] »

meepmorp wrote: post #27
the_only_law wrote: post #22

Lol https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Shaw_(laboratory_own... Leave it to HN to fall for grifters, but then again I suppose this must just probably just a massive conspiracy by the big bad Illuminati or something to profit off mainstream understanding of autism and we should trust the “science” this time. (To be fair, I can’t find anything that points to the main author being nearly on the same level of quacker…

Just because someone has a history of being deceitful and making up things to further their own agenda, that doesn't mean we should discount everything they say - especially when it's an extraordinary, n=1 result in the case of a complex disorder. And honestly, it's kind of disrespectful to bring up someone's history of grifting in this context. We should trust each other more, not less, and that starts with believin…

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Re: Case study: Rapid recovery from autism after treatment of aspergillus (2020)

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Post by asveikau »

_dain_ wrote: post #18

I keep warning Hackernews not to trust fungi, and people downvoted me for it. But I keep getting proved right. Don't trust those spores. They're everywhere: in the trees, in the breeze, even our cheese.

Fungi is way too broad a category to "be suspicious of", there's lots of harmless fungi that are basically ubiquitous. And as you note, lots of it in food, often with supposed benefits.

Re: Case study: Rapid recovery from autism after treatment of aspergillus (2020)

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Post by LoganDark »

Amazing! Note that ASD is not necessarily indicative of actual neurodivergence, as you don't have to possess the autistic neurotype to show autistic symptoms. Autistic symptoms, if not arising from actual neurodivergence, can potentially be treated, and I love that there is ongoing research into this.
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