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Foot – A fast, lightweight and minimalistic Wayland terminal emulator

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Re: Foot – A fast, lightweight and minimalistic Wayland terminal emulator

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it makes you sad that different people do things differently from you?

No, it makes me sad that I wish more people learned about how awesome kde is.

Konsole terminal widget is fine but the context menu is a literal mess and command line less useful than gnome, if that is possible.

Re: Foot – A fast, lightweight and minimalistic Wayland terminal emulator

#32

I'd love to use Wayland all the time, and we are almost there, but just so many quirks everywhere (especially with outdated Electron apps).

It really is nice once managed - it's hard to explain, but everything is very smooth. I would guess the display synchronization/mixed refresh rate support is to thank.

Some Electron-based things and Steam are the main holdouts I've noticed.

I suspect the Electron things at-large will be sorted out before Steam... they simply need to rebase while Valve has to modernize their libraries (ie: vgui)

Re: Foot – A fast, lightweight and minimalistic Wayland terminal emulator

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As someone who has dabbled in terminal emulation (I was the maintainer of Console Telnet for Win32 twenty years ago), I have respect for someone who takes the time to optimize a terminal emulator by building a fast parser and being careful with screen updates. That used to be the only way to make a graphical program fast, but these days hardware is so fast you can render an entire scene before the next screen refresh…

I don't think I've ever encountered a problem where terminal emulation would be too slow. What I do have encountered are terminal emulators that go bonkers and require some arcane configuration magic to figure out what to emulate.

GNOME terminal works and looks pleasant to boot. In fact it works so well that I almost never think of it although I use it all the time.

Re: Foot – A fast, lightweight and minimalistic Wayland terminal emulator

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That makes me sad :/ Though now that you mention it, I recall running Tilix back when I used to run gnome. It’s been quite a few years.

it makes you sad that different people do things differently from you?

Why wouldn't it? Obviously when you chose a way to do things you also believe it's the best, which is why you chose it.

Re: Foot – A fast, lightweight and minimalistic Wayland terminal emulator

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I used KDE and absolutely loathed it. Admittedly this was fifteen years ago, but I was blown away by the developers’ inability to make any actual design decisions, instead punting literally everything to a mountain of configuration options. Case in point, the taskbar system clock. There were no fewer than six full tabs of options to customize its behavior, including the ability to use Swatch Internet Time. Everything…

Kids today will never know the awesomeness and terribleness of Swatch Internet Time. I remember when they gave a bunch of money to CNN and for a brief period the time listed on articles was Swatch Internet Time. Late 90s and early 2000s were strange.

I wish we had remote meetings, even annoucements, and other such stuff still noted in an "internet time" like that.

Re: Foot – A fast, lightweight and minimalistic Wayland terminal emulator

#36
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No, it makes me sad that I wish more people learned about how awesome kde is.

I used KDE and absolutely loathed it. Admittedly this was fifteen years ago, but I was blown away by the developers’ inability to make any actual design decisions, instead punting literally everything to a mountain of configuration options. Case in point, the taskbar system clock. There were no fewer than six full tabs of options to customize its behavior, including the ability to use Swatch Internet Time. Everything…

A lot of the last few years of releases has been about tweaking defaults and providing a smoother experience for first time users. This is very subjective obviously, but I find KDE Ddefaults to be a lot closer to what I like, and I appreciate having all the options be built-in as opposed to having to hunt a dozen or so random gnome shell extensions to get that last 5%.

KDE 3 and 4 were a dumpster fire. Even the first release of Plasma was very rough. But I switched to KDE maybe 5 years ago and never really looked back. If your experience with KDE is from 15 years, give it a shot with an open mind. It’s pretty great imo

Re: Foot – A fast, lightweight and minimalistic Wayland terminal emulator

#37
This certainly looks interesting. I've been using Kitty for a while and it works great and supports so many features. It would be nice to see how it compares to Foot in terms of speed. I'm also curios about Ghostty, the in-progress (but currently private) terminal from Mitchell Hashimoto.

https://mitchellh.com/ghostty

Re: Foot – A fast, lightweight and minimalistic Wayland terminal emulator

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Been using `foot` for a year plus at this point. No issues, works great, very happy!

Same here works well, but I am eyeing others for image support at some point.

This made me curious about image support in the emulator I use (iTerm2), and I learned that it has these cool utilities[0] that (inter alia) add aliases for imgcat and imgls, which are exactly what they sound like.

[0]https://iterm2.com/documentation-utilities.html

Re: Foot – A fast, lightweight and minimalistic Wayland terminal emulator

#39
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It's minimalistic but it supports animated gifs?

This is sixel. It’s kind of a standard and supported by a growing number of terminals, including xterm (but you need the VT-340 profile).

This is also really useful. I use it in Offpunk to display pictures when browsing the web.

Re: Foot – A fast, lightweight and minimalistic Wayland terminal emulator

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No, it makes me sad that I wish more people learned about how awesome kde is.

I used KDE and absolutely loathed it. Admittedly this was fifteen years ago, but I was blown away by the developers’ inability to make any actual design decisions, instead punting literally everything to a mountain of configuration options. Case in point, the taskbar system clock. There were no fewer than six full tabs of options to customize its behavior, including the ability to use Swatch Internet Time. Everything…

KDE still has this mentality, though they try to somewhat sweep it under the rug. Toolbars aren't overflowing anymore... usually. But the menus and dialogs still have those hundreds of options and it definitely gives a feeling that the developers can't commit to decisions themselves.

Really, KDE just has a maximalist philosophy. Shove everything into users' faces all at once because of all possible opinion variations.

Part of why I like GNOME is that it's the exact opposite: minimalism. The options it does offer tend to be the options you actually might want to tweak, and there's not many of them. (In the GUI anyway; GNOME still has lots of options available via dconf-editor/gsettings, basically the GNOME equivalent of the Windows Registry)

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