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Re: iOS 17 Is a Prude

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Post by ben_w »

mfer wrote: post #16
zeratax wrote: post #11

optional things like this are fine. preventing me from joining e.g. NSFW discord servers wholesale is not imo. As an adult I should be able to use my phone however I want

> as an adult You touch on an interesting element. A lot of iPhone users are kids. Even young kids. Logged in with their parents account. Not trying to justify what’s going on. Just add context

Mmm.

Given the internet as it is, and as it has been even back when FOSS discussions included hating GIF because of patent enforcement, kids shouldn't be on the (general) internet at all.

Smartphones are even worse, given the deliberate attempts to make content more addictive.

I'm not sure how to square that particular circle with the likelihood of social exclusion from not being online — it's not like me putting (general) in brackets in the first paragraph will convince the right people that there's money to be made in a genuinely safe subset, despite the existence of YouTube Kids and whatever Netflix' thing is called.

Re: iOS 17 Is a Prude

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Post by cmsj »

mirashii wrote: post #29
squeaky-clean wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> preventing me from joining e.g. NSFW discord servers wholesale Is this something that iOS (or some other client) does? Or just hypothetical. I don't keep up with these things aside from when they reach HN

https://www.theverge.com/tech/2021/4/19/22391675/discord-ios...

(to be clear, this is not an iOS restriction per-se, this is the App Store guidelines not wanting to have a store full of porn)

Re: iOS 17 Is a Prude

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Post by roenxi »

diego_sandoval wrote: post #22
brucethemoose2 wrote: post #5

If its local scanning, this is fine. Dare I say, its a pretty good use of machine vision.

Even if done locally, it's still creepy.

There is a problem out there of unsolicited nudes; I can see this being welcome capability for a lot of people [0]. It doesn't nudge up against any privacy issues. Seems like a good idea overall.

Of course, there is also a real issue with the fact that, as closed source software on a locked down platform, we can't know what happens next. But that is just part of the deal with iPhones; there is already a lot of data like that (eg, I'd expect the US uses iPhone GPS data froom targets to hunt them down).

[0] Not sure what the feature actually does because nobody has posted details here, so there is some guesswork here.

Re: iOS 17 Is a Prude

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Post by [deleted] »

vore wrote: post #24
december456 wrote: post #23

I will break the HN spirit, but im fucking horrified of this thread. _So_ many people being happy that a company is protecting them from themselves, or their family members. Where is my controversial personal websites? Did i take a wrong left turn somewhere?

I mean, you can just click the button to send the nudes. It's a sign, not a cop.

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Re: iOS 17 Is a Prude

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Post by [deleted] »

lucb1e wrote: post #30
diego_sandoval wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if done locally, it's still creepy.

I'd also be creeped out, but honestly it's not bad to be a bit paranoid about who can see what you're currently sending onto the internet and double checking that things are as they should

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Re: iOS 17 Is a Prude

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Post by CharlesW »

lucb1e wrote: post #28
CharlesW wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because no underage person has ever sent or received a dick pic?

That's not what your article is about though, or even so much as mentions in passing, so I find the critique that the provided data is not about CSAM legitimate

> That's not what your article is about though…

Teen Girls’ Experiences Negotiating the Ubiquitous Dick Pic: Sexual Double Standards and the Normalization of Image Based Sexual Harassment: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11199-021-01236-3

"The YouGov poll also highlighted that, of all of the women questioned, 46% received an unsolicited dick pic before the age of 18…"

Hope that helps.

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