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iPhone 15 Pro facts and estimates

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Re: iPhone 15 Pro facts and estimates

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Post by jojobas »

masklinn wrote: post #27
jojobas wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess that's the joke. Nobody cares about phone rotational inertia, the fact that someone would measure it is funny as is.

People actually care, this got investigated because early reviewers “felt” the phone was much lighter than it actually is (which is quite welcome). The lower moment of inertia is the cause of that difference.

Reviewers are not just "people", they are people desperate to squeeze out as many words as possible praising and nitpicking the product in exactly the ordered proportions.

I refuse to believe anybody at all cares about how light or heavy their phone weighs or how light it "feels".

Re: iPhone 15 Pro facts and estimates

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Post by TheSpiceIsLife »

sidkshatriya wrote: post #18
jrflowers wrote: post #11

This is a shame. I am going to have to migrate to an Android-based handset for the first time in 15 years because of this change.

You want to shift to Android because you want higher moment of inertia and/or higher weight in your phone ? You would be a dream customer to many phone companies. Or perhaps you say all this in jest.

My daily driver weights nearly half a kilogram and has a 13,200 mAh battery that literally actually truly lasts for four days of mixed use on a charge.

I also have an iPhone, but be fucked if I can keep hold of it, it's so light I can seem to actually get a grip on it for longer than about two minutes at a time.

I've had my eufges phone for over a year and still haven't broken the screen. I mate dropped his, same brand, different model, from a second story access platform from where it fell face down on concrete, the glass screen protector was cracked but the phone was fine.

I do not understand the obsession with lightness and thinness, but that's just me, and I suppose the other few thousand who've bought phones that aren't ultra light ultra thin ultra breakable.

Re: iPhone 15 Pro facts and estimates

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Post by notbeuller »

btgeekboy wrote: post #9
Gigachad wrote: post #6

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I used to do this, but then I realised I only ever drop my phone because it has a case on it. Now I have it bare and never drop it.

I'm the opposite. They're too slippery without a case. Also helps get rid of the camera bumps.

I've got an iPhone Xs Max (how old? no clue) Despite the camera bump if I have it on a flat surface playing audio it will scoot off and take a dive. (I ended up putting a case on it for that reason alone)

Re: iPhone 15 Pro facts and estimates

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Post by Brigand »

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #32
sidkshatriya wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You want to shift to Android because you want higher moment of inertia and/or higher weight in your phone ? You would be a dream customer to many phone companies. Or perhaps you say all this in jest.

My daily driver weights nearly half a kilogram and has a 13,200 mAh battery that literally actually truly lasts for four days of mixed use on a charge. I also have an iPhone, but be fucked if I can keep hold of it, it's so light I can seem to actually get a grip on it for longer than about two minutes at a time. I've had my eufges phone for over a year and still haven't broken the screen. I mate dropped his, same bra…

This is easily solved with a tough protection case.

Re: iPhone 15 Pro facts and estimates

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Post by a_t48 »

xxs wrote: post #24
weinzierl wrote: post #15

"iPhone 15 Pro 10% lighter but 15% lower rotational inertia because of edge mass" The "but" in the title confuses me. Both are good things and make the phone feel lighter, so shouldn't it be "and" ?

Nowadays, I consider heavier -> better. Phones can be somewhat an exception, however it usually comes at the expense of battery, overall rigidity. There are exceptions - using lighter materials - notably Al, Mg alloys vs steel.

A lighter phone should mean less energy applied to your screen when you drop it.

Re: iPhone 15 Pro facts and estimates

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Post by masklinn »

jojobas wrote: post #31
masklinn wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People actually care, this got investigated because early reviewers “felt” the phone was much lighter than it actually is (which is quite welcome). The lower moment of inertia is the cause of that difference.

Reviewers are not just "people", they are people desperate to squeeze out as many words as possible praising and nitpicking the product in exactly the ordered proportions. I refuse to believe anybody at all cares about how light or heavy their phone weighs or how light it "feels".

> Reviewers are not just "people", they are people desperate to squeeze out as many words as possible praising and nitpicking the product in exactly the ordered proportions.

Nice IMAX you got there.

> I refuse to believe anybody at all cares about how light or heavy their phone weighs or how light it "feels".

Oh yeah, it’s really unbelievable that people would care about the weight of something they carry and move around a significant fraction of their day and people definitely haven’t been complaining about how heavy the 13P / 14P design is since they were released (https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/pw875n/does_anyone_e..., https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/13-pro-too-big-and-heav...) but hey I’m sure you can just call them weak shills or something.

Re: iPhone 15 Pro facts and estimates

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Post by katbyte »

bpye wrote: post #10
sbrother wrote: post #5

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Be careful with the satellite SOS feature. I accidentally left my 14 pro on the roof of my car when way outside of cell reception in rural Utah; it fell off and triggered the crash-triggered SOS feature. Wasted a bunch of emergency responder's time, which I felt awful about. Manually triggered SOS is great but I think enabling the crash triggered one is irresponsible.

Surely it’s pretty hard to use satellite SOS by accident since you need to point it at the satellite overhead? Was yours the normal crash or fall detection?

You are supposed to but there was a story about it working in a canyon after a car crash 400ft down (https://www.macrumors.com/2023/07/24/iphone-14-saves-man-at-...) saved his life and I’ve shared location and just tossed it down on a picnic table in a forest and it eventually sent.

It definitely makes it connect faster (a min or two) vs the 10-20 it can take when you don’t

I’m impressed and it’s nice to have that additional level of safety

Re: iPhone 15 Pro facts and estimates

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Post by bambax »

> One answer is that people are just more sensitive than we give them credit for being. A 9–10% drop in weight may seem like a small amount to our brains but a large amount to our hands.

This has been my experience. I finally upgraded my Garmin Fenix 3 watch to a 7 (titanium). The 3 weighted 82g while the 7 is 73g. You would think the difference is negligible.

You would be wrong. It changes everything. I used to be extremely conscious of the presence of the 3 on my wrist. With the 7 I forget it, I don't even feel it anymore.

Re: iPhone 15 Pro facts and estimates

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Post by perbu »

bpye wrote: post #10
sbrother wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Be careful with the satellite SOS feature. I accidentally left my 14 pro on the roof of my car when way outside of cell reception in rural Utah; it fell off and triggered the crash-triggered SOS feature. Wasted a bunch of emergency responder's time, which I felt awful about. Manually triggered SOS is great but I think enabling the crash triggered one is irresponsible.

Surely it’s pretty hard to use satellite SOS by accident since you need to point it at the satellite overhead? Was yours the normal crash or fall detection?

If the skies are clear and the phone falls of the car it shouldn't have any problem reaching a satellite.
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