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EDIT: I guess this is the cost to _rent_ an IP per month and not the cost of _owning_ an IPv4 address.
Can someone please ELI5?
Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't run IPv6 on my home network. I try it about once a year, enabling it at the router (it's already enabled on my laptop). And then random stuff just doesn't work. Various websites hang, various widgets just don't load, etc. Then I turn it off and everything gets better again. I'be been too lazy to diagnose why exactly it doesn't work, I just figure it's easier to run with it off. At some point a website I reall…
Debian would just not run due to apt repositories being borked if ipv6 was turned on.
Some noob questions here. How does one buy a block of IPv4 as an individual? (If that's allowed) After you purchase it, how does it come into your possession? How do you utilize them?
1. You most likely can't. You typically need to prove to a numbering authority that you need that many IPs (minimum /24) for X reason and you will be multihomed (connected to two+ ISPs) by Y date. 2. You are assigned a BGP Autonomous System Number (ASN) as part of the process. The IPs are assigned to your ASN. 3. You sign a peering contract with ISPs and peer with them using BGP on your router. You use your ASN to an…
Also, there is no organization that can require anything of an ISP’s addressing plan. The IETF and the RIRs are associations, not governing bodies.
Some noob questions here. How does one buy a block of IPv4 as an individual? (If that's allowed) After you purchase it, how does it come into your possession? How do you utilize them?
1. You most likely can't. You typically need to prove to a numbering authority that you need that many IPs (minimum /24) for X reason and you will be multihomed (connected to two+ ISPs) by Y date. 2. You are assigned a BGP Autonomous System Number (ASN) as part of the process. The IPs are assigned to your ASN. 3. You sign a peering contract with ISPs and peer with them using BGP on your router. You use your ASN to an…
Mandating something like a static /56 (physical location locked) to be available at no extra cost if the customer asks for it, would work fine, though. I'd even accept requiring this only for contracts that allow more than one customer device to access the Internet simultaneously. Yes, a phone plan with two SIMs on one contract would already trigger this.
A subtle detail from the article is that address prices peaked in 2021 at $60 and has steadily decreased to $35. Where does it go from here? Is this a proxy for the tech correction?
Possibly. It might also have been a bit of a panic because RIPE ran out of IPv4 addresses around that time and it was unclear back then how liquid the transfer market would be.
RIPE had a policy to extremely rate limit allocations from their last /8, which is how they were able to continue allocating for an extra 7 years. The other RIRs had no such policy.
Some noob questions here. How does one buy a block of IPv4 as an individual? (If that's allowed) After you purchase it, how does it come into your possession? How do you utilize them?
1. You most likely can't. You typically need to prove to a numbering authority that you need that many IPs (minimum /24) for X reason and you will be multihomed (connected to two+ ISPs) by Y date. 2. You are assigned a BGP Autonomous System Number (ASN) as part of the process. The IPs are assigned to your ASN. 3. You sign a peering contract with ISPs and peer with them using BGP on your router. You use your ASN to an…
Having a ton of people/businesses with their own announced and unaggregatable /48s would add a lot of entries to routing tables.
Some noob questions here. How does one buy a block of IPv4 as an individual? (If that's allowed) After you purchase it, how does it come into your possession? How do you utilize them?
1. You most likely can't. You typically need to prove to a numbering authority that you need that many IPs (minimum /24) for X reason and you will be multihomed (connected to two+ ISPs) by Y date. 2. You are assigned a BGP Autonomous System Number (ASN) as part of the process. The IPs are assigned to your ASN. 3. You sign a peering contract with ISPs and peer with them using BGP on your router. You use your ASN to an…
This is by design. If we let arbitrary routings of /64 blocks pollute the global routing table shit is going to go sideways as the rest of the net scales up and up. We made that mistake with IPv4 and the only reason our routers haven't gone thermonuclear keeping up with the announced routes is we literally ran out of address space.
We're not going to get the IPv6 equivalent of IPv4 /24s announced ever again. While minimum prefix lengths aren't hard enforced (yet), unless you have the means/reason to be multihomed using /48s you're pretty much going to be under the hierarchical routing of your transport or last mile provider.
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A subtle detail from the article is that address prices peaked in 2021 at $60 and has steadily decreased to $35. Where does it go from here? Is this a proxy for the tech correction?
Yah, it certainly seems like maybe that was peak pricing. This write up has some more data on historical pricing https://www.ipxo.com/blog/ipv4-price-history/ I've also heard folks pay quite a bit over the average price for novelty IP addresses, so perhaps that skewed the data? I'd love to be able to buy 2.2.2.0/23 or my favorite 42.42.42.0/24