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Why Resumes Are Dead and How Indeed.com Keeps Killing the Job Market

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Re: Why Resumes Are Dead and How Indeed.com Keeps Killing the Job Market

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While my sympathy goes out to this person, I think this entire long, rambling, post could be condensed to a paragraph, or even a sentence: "It was a mistake for me to use Indeed.com." If you want the job (of finding leads, and finding jobs) done right, hire a professional -- a recruiter who will charge a fee and is aligned towards you finding a job. Trying to cold-apply to every single job with a spray and pray appro…

Any recommendations on finding such middlemen?

Re: Why Resumes Are Dead and How Indeed.com Keeps Killing the Job Market

#32

Never used indeed.com once. But...people should know that these sites, and recruiters, are basically hiring theater. Almost all jobs (perhaps excepting FAANG meat grinder) are filled through personal connections.

> Almost all jobs are filled through personal connections.

I see this repeated online, but is there any data to actually back this claim up? In my experience only a small number of jobs get filled through referrals etc.

Re: Why Resumes Are Dead and How Indeed.com Keeps Killing the Job Market

#33
post #29

My solution to this is to have a Markdown resume that is easy to decompose into any form fields an employer has. If they want a normal one, I produce a lightly-formatted PDF.

I have a LaTeX template that I edit and export to PDF. I also have one that is plain markdown and easy to customize, and it also works as an online CV via GitHub pages [0]. For jobs that I apply through lever, Firefox remembers all the fields! xD

[0]: https://ritog.github.io

Re: Why Resumes Are Dead and How Indeed.com Keeps Killing the Job Market

#34

Never used indeed.com once. But...people should know that these sites, and recruiters, are basically hiring theater. Almost all jobs (perhaps excepting FAANG meat grinder) are filled through personal connections.

i don't know, where I work 100% of resumes come from a third-party recruiter, same at my previous job. I've gotten my last 3 jobs either through third-party recruiters or direct applications, not referrals.

Re: Why Resumes Are Dead and How Indeed.com Keeps Killing the Job Market

#35
The author says they've been applying to thousands of jobs.

This is the resume the author is linking in the article: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/v2sv6ev393z9fkk62v1hw/Paul-Fu...

I wonder, if this person's main method of applying has been online forms where you click the "upload resume", he puts this resume in and then everything fails from the start because the ATS is unable to read it. It looks like the text in the resume is not text but an image.

I read some posts back this year that most publicly advertised positions get bazillion applications, most of which suck, so you have to assume a computer program is going to filter your resume first, unless you've been referred in.

I don't like his resume that much, I think it's a bit too embellished but if I needed a person with his kind of experience (based on the resume), I would talk to them. But if I also had 2000 other applications in front of me, I am not going to read them one by one without using a helper tool to filter them.

Re: Why Resumes Are Dead and How Indeed.com Keeps Killing the Job Market

#37

Personal websites or linkedin profiles for non-techies would address a lot of the problems he's describing. Actually, linkedIn makes sense for everyone as the profile outline is standardized across users, so anyone interested can scrape info as needed. edit to say that there needs to be a less social version of linkedin, so just a profile without any of the cringe-inducing toxic positivity.

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Re: Why Resumes Are Dead and How Indeed.com Keeps Killing the Job Market

#38

While my sympathy goes out to this person, I think this entire long, rambling, post could be condensed to a paragraph, or even a sentence: "It was a mistake for me to use Indeed.com." If you want the job (of finding leads, and finding jobs) done right, hire a professional -- a recruiter who will charge a fee and is aligned towards you finding a job. Trying to cold-apply to every single job with a spray and pray appro…

Any recommendations on finding such middlemen?

Another middleman who is "professional" at finding middlemen, of course.

Re: Why Resumes Are Dead and How Indeed.com Keeps Killing the Job Market

#39
I'm stuck in a similar loop and I understand the author's frustration.

Everything feels automated, and it feels like all I can do is look forward to the rare moments when I actually speak with a person about their role and try to showcase my experience and skills.

It's demoralizing. I've taken to doing freelance AI data annotation work, which is somewhat boring and not using my full capabilities, but while I'm in this limbo, I'm not sure what else to do.

Re: Why Resumes Are Dead and How Indeed.com Keeps Killing the Job Market

#40
I came across this question the other day while discussing AI Agents.

Would you chat with an AI agent to be the first line recruiter assuming that you can have a "real" chat with that agent? I.e., the agent ask real questions?

OR do you think its fairer we submit a CV with years of work experience condensed into three bullet points that's screened by an ATS AI?

"Thought: To determine if John is a suitable candidate for the role of a social media marketer, I need to ask him some questions and evaluate his qualifications. Action: human Action Input: What strategies did you use to grow Boeing's Twitter channel?"

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