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Re: Tracking Austrian grocery prices by scraping store sites

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Post by 0xDEF »

helpfulContrib wrote: post #28
0xDEF wrote: post #8

Funny how the two most pro-Russian EU countries, Hungary and Austria, are the ones suffering the worst inflation despite continuing to trade with Russia. The only parts of the countries doing well are Budapest and Vienna that are both controlled by opposition parties.

Austrian inflation and trade with Russia: please explain how this is related? Is it because corporations are being used to put the squeeze on the Austrian people? Sanctions? Because nobody wants to do trade with Austria? In which case, there must surely be examples? I'd love to know a few.

Pro-Russian right-wing parties in Europe are blaming inflation on our sanctions on Russia. If that was the case Hungary and Austria would not be the the countries that are worst affected by inflation.

Re: Tracking Austrian grocery prices by scraping store sites

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Post by a_bonobo »

l0b0 wrote: post #24

> Then we also got German and Slovenian stores. Do they mean foreign companies operating in Austria, or separate DBs/web sites for other countries? (The forks[1] don't have legible names) I'd love to see a New Zealand one, as we have a big problem right now with rising cost of living and lots of suspicion of shenanigans. [1] https://github.com/badlogic/heissepreise/forks

The website has a 'Mueller' and a 'Mueller DE', I assume the first one is Mueller in Austria.

I've looked into doing something similar for Colesworths in AUS but they make scraping their websites very hard on purpose [1]. OP was lucky that they got the anonymous since-2017 price dump! I can't find anything similar for ANZ.

Pricehipster has some histories going back to 2021 for Coles alone: https://pricehipster.com/?stores=BkG5opaa

Interestingly, the cheap toast at Coles almost doubled in price since 2021. That fits with my general observations here: the general cheap staples got way more expensive, the expensive stuff stayed similar. https://pricehipster.com/product/Gwzex_LRGY2ueMAelqR-xg~BkG5...

[1] see https://pricehipster.com/woolworths-hostile for example

Re: Tracking Austrian grocery prices by scraping store sites

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

midasuni wrote: post #12
MichaelRo wrote: post #4

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Supermarkets are colluding to increase prices as all companies are wont to do. There isn’t enough competition to act as downward pressure on prices. This isn’t a monetary thing that YouTube says - the goods a few miles away in Germany aren’t seeing this, despite being in the same currency and no difficulty transporting them. In a free market a competitor would buy from the same supplier the german supermarket does, u…

>However that doesn’t work because consumers in Austria don’t realise how they are being ripped off

Oh, they have known for a long time they were being ripped off but didn't have the proof. There's nothing they can do about it because the corrupt politicians claim it's just the free market and can't intervine with the market pricing otherwise it would be communism, and Austrian consumers who don't live close to Germany have no other options for shopping than the local monopoly.

Re: Tracking Austrian grocery prices by scraping store sites

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Post by 0xDEF »

yakubin wrote: post #29
0xDEF wrote: post #8

Funny how the two most pro-Russian EU countries, Hungary and Austria, are the ones suffering the worst inflation despite continuing to trade with Russia. The only parts of the countries doing well are Budapest and Vienna that are both controlled by opposition parties.

Hungary yes, but Austria doesn’t seem to be doing all that bad. Eastern Europe is doing much worse. https://www.statista.com/statistics/225698/monthly-inflation...

Isn't that the June 2023 inflation numbers? How do they include increased natural gas prices doing winter months?

Re: Tracking Austrian grocery prices by scraping store sites

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

zwarag wrote: post #30
l0b0 wrote: post #24

> Then we also got German and Slovenian stores. Do they mean foreign companies operating in Austria, or separate DBs/web sites for other countries? (The forks[1] don't have legible names) I'd love to see a New Zealand one, as we have a big problem right now with rising cost of living and lots of suspicion of shenanigans. [1] https://github.com/badlogic/heissepreise/forks

He added foreign stores that sell the partially sell the same things. Sometimes these stores also sell Austrian products which are cheaper in those countries than they are in Austria.

Most famously, Red Bull, which is made in Austria but it's actually cheaper after it gets shipped to Germany than in the country it's made in. Insane. Austrians are being flogged. Germany feels like the only EU country with some sane competition in the retail sector.

Re: Tracking Austrian grocery prices by scraping store sites

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Post by yakubin »

0xDEF wrote: post #35
yakubin wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hungary yes, but Austria doesn’t seem to be doing all that bad. Eastern Europe is doing much worse. https://www.statista.com/statistics/225698/monthly-inflation...

Isn't that the June 2023 inflation numbers? How do they include increased natural gas prices doing winter months?

They don’t. We’re far away both from the previous and upcoming winter. Are you saying that during winter Austria is going to be doing worse than others?

Re: Tracking Austrian grocery prices by scraping store sites

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Post by lotsofpulp »

midasuni wrote: post #3

“asymmetric information warfare” I think that’s a great term in explaining how “the free market” doesn’t work.

It has also been shown that much of the population prefers buying something for $x if the price tag claims it has been discounted rather than $x without the claim of a discount.

Re: Tracking Austrian grocery prices by scraping store sites

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Post by helpfulContrib »

0xDEF wrote: post #31
helpfulContrib wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Austrian inflation and trade with Russia: please explain how this is related? Is it because corporations are being used to put the squeeze on the Austrian people? Sanctions? Because nobody wants to do trade with Austria? In which case, there must surely be examples? I'd love to know a few.

Pro-Russian right-wing parties in Europe are blaming inflation on our sanctions on Russia. If that was the case Hungary and Austria would not be the the countries that are worst affected by inflation.

This doesn't make any sense at all. Please explain it without generalizations, and maybe give some examples?
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