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C++Builder 11 Community Edition

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Re: C++Builder 11 Community Edition

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Post by anta40 »

marcodiego wrote: post #24

My main problem with delphi: it is "too proprietary". It was a very productive IDE in the 90's or early 2000's but lost their path and never recovered. Some new versions broke compatibility with previous version's components. There was the case where you paid a good amount of money on some proprietary components and they simply wouldn't work in the next version: you were imprisoned in an obsolete IDE. By not being mu…

I don't mind trying Delphi again since they support mobile targets (Android & iOS). Too bad the IDE itself only runs on Windows...

Re: C++Builder 11 Community Edition

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Post by notpushkin »

marcodiego wrote: post #24

My main problem with delphi: it is "too proprietary". It was a very productive IDE in the 90's or early 2000's but lost their path and never recovered. Some new versions broke compatibility with previous version's components. There was the case where you paid a good amount of money on some proprietary components and they simply wouldn't work in the next version: you were imprisoned in an obsolete IDE. By not being mu…

Doesn't Lazarus address at least some of these concerns? (I don't think it's a drop in replacement though.)

https://www.lazarus-ide.org/

Re: C++Builder 11 Community Edition

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Post by deaddodo »

notpushkin wrote: post #32
marcodiego wrote: post #24

My main problem with delphi: it is "too proprietary". It was a very productive IDE in the 90's or early 2000's but lost their path and never recovered. Some new versions broke compatibility with previous version's components. There was the case where you paid a good amount of money on some proprietary components and they simply wouldn't work in the next version: you were imprisoned in an obsolete IDE. By not being mu…

Doesn't Lazarus address at least some of these concerns? (I don't think it's a drop in replacement though.) https://www.lazarus-ide.org/

Mostly, although Lazarus has an incompatible ABI (LCLs vs VCLs). So legacy projects relient on third-party components don't benefit from it.

Re: C++Builder 11 Community Edition

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Post by deaddodo »

germandiago wrote: post #5
pjmlp wrote: post #3

The only VB like development experience for C++. Microsoft completely messed up the XAML / C++/CX development experience with internal politics, only to have the team responsible for C++/WinRT going on to have fun in Rust/WinRT, leaving the former in maintenance state.

How good is C++ Builder? Ever tried? I Saw It a couple of years ago and it looked good actually but noone seems to use it.

Imagine classic Visual C++ with it's form builder (versus the modern WinRT stuff) and hooks...it's much like that. I would say the experience is a little smoother. I do remember the version I used to use had issues with the form builder to where getting exactly what you wanted was finicky (the rendered/preview version was never quite what the compiled version ended up as).

Re: C++Builder 11 Community Edition

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Post by yazzku »

blinkingled wrote: post #9

Borland's C++ compiler was _fast_. And I mean eye wateringly fast on crappy pre-AMD64 hardware. I wonder if it supports modern C++ today and is still faster than other compilers. (If I am not mistaken this new edition is a offshoot of that?) (Yeah I am not downloading the "Community" edition if I have to provide my name address and phone number. Really if your product needs mindshare and you offer community edition t…

This kind of email+phone registration was common in the 90s and earlier. Oh, wait, it's 2023.

Re: C++Builder 11 Community Edition

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Post by pjmlp »

blinkingled wrote: post #9

Borland's C++ compiler was _fast_. And I mean eye wateringly fast on crappy pre-AMD64 hardware. I wonder if it supports modern C++ today and is still faster than other compilers. (If I am not mistaken this new edition is a offshoot of that?) (Yeah I am not downloading the "Community" edition if I have to provide my name address and phone number. Really if your product needs mindshare and you offer community edition t…

C++17, using their clang fork.

Re: C++Builder 11 Community Edition

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Post by pjmlp »

yazzku wrote: post #36
blinkingled wrote: post #9

Borland's C++ compiler was _fast_. And I mean eye wateringly fast on crappy pre-AMD64 hardware. I wonder if it supports modern C++ today and is still faster than other compilers. (If I am not mistaken this new edition is a offshoot of that?) (Yeah I am not downloading the "Community" edition if I have to provide my name address and phone number. Really if your product needs mindshare and you offer community edition t…

This kind of email+phone registration was common in the 90s and earlier. Oh, wait, it's 2023.

It is perfectly common in 2023 for the kind of clients that usually pay for development software tools.
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