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iPhone 15’s shift to USB-C

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Re: iPhone 15’s shift to USB-C

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Post by scarface_74 »

IggleSniggle wrote: post #18
rffn wrote: post #9

Apple would cannibalize their computer and iPad sales if they were supporting the thin client model like Samsung DeX. See how they already avoid cannibalization of the iPhone business by preventing the iPad to make phone calls. They protect their product lines from each other. As much as I like to see such a feature, I don’t think Apple will ever give it to us.

See also: cellular Apple Watch unable to make calls/texts without being tethered (over an Internet connection, remotely!) to an iPhone.

This isn’t true. I just made a call two days ago from my Watch with ny iPhone being completely dead.

Re: iPhone 15’s shift to USB-C

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Post by MichaelZuo »

IggleSniggle wrote: post #18
rffn wrote: post #9

Apple would cannibalize their computer and iPad sales if they were supporting the thin client model like Samsung DeX. See how they already avoid cannibalization of the iPhone business by preventing the iPad to make phone calls. They protect their product lines from each other. As much as I like to see such a feature, I don’t think Apple will ever give it to us.

See also: cellular Apple Watch unable to make calls/texts without being tethered (over an Internet connection, remotely!) to an iPhone.

Are you certain? I'm fairly sure I've made calls with my Series 4 cellular when I know the linked iPhone is powered off.

Re: iPhone 15’s shift to USB-C

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Post by ballenf »

Apple will take the approach theorized here when it can be done wirelessly. Bring your phone close to a "Magic Monitor" and the desktop experience starts instantly.

The change of plug shape is irrelevant to whether this paradigm shift happens inside Apple, but Apple is better positioned than any other device maker to accomplish it if they focused on it.

Re: iPhone 15’s shift to USB-C

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Post by jabroni_salad »

criddell wrote: post #22
rffn wrote: post #9

Apple would cannibalize their computer and iPad sales if they were supporting the thin client model like Samsung DeX. See how they already avoid cannibalization of the iPhone business by preventing the iPad to make phone calls. They protect their product lines from each other. As much as I like to see such a feature, I don’t think Apple will ever give it to us.

I don't know what DeX is, but if by thin client you mean the computer is somewhere else then I would say that doesn't sound like Apple at all. Apple is the last company that seems to still believe in personal computers on the desk.

DeX lets you connect your phone to a docking station. You get a fairly basic windowed desktop experience.

I actually use it to run citrix receiver and connect to the corporate network. hardly ever bring my work laptop home anymore.

Re: iPhone 15’s shift to USB-C

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Post by pmx »

criddell wrote: post #22
rffn wrote: post #9

Apple would cannibalize their computer and iPad sales if they were supporting the thin client model like Samsung DeX. See how they already avoid cannibalization of the iPhone business by preventing the iPad to make phone calls. They protect their product lines from each other. As much as I like to see such a feature, I don’t think Apple will ever give it to us.

I don't know what DeX is, but if by thin client you mean the computer is somewhere else then I would say that doesn't sound like Apple at all. Apple is the last company that seems to still believe in personal computers on the desk.

I think they're using the term thin client incorrectly in the article. While it obviously means a low power terminal that connects to a remote server, they're using it to mean compute that you carry around and connect it to any monitor and input devices that you happen across. Dex is samsung's implementation of this and it works very well indeed.

Re: iPhone 15’s shift to USB-C

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Post by camillomiller »

I have been covering similar features for 10 years now. While everyone somehow cheers hard about them on paper, in practice their usage is non-existent. Convergence is not gonna happen, users do not seem interested at all in this type of crossover use-case. Samsung and Motorola’s solution have been around for a while and they’re a testament to that. Lenovo now has even a feature that lets you have access to a Windows 11 Cloud PC via ThinkPhone if you’re a business or corporate user. The use case scenario is there, but apparently it’s just not as compelling to actual users as it seems made out to be. That’s why Apple is not gonna allow anything like that to happen on an iPhone.

Re: iPhone 15’s shift to USB-C

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Post by scarface_74 »

kalleboo wrote: post #12
rffn wrote: post #9

Apple would cannibalize their computer and iPad sales if they were supporting the thin client model like Samsung DeX. See how they already avoid cannibalization of the iPhone business by preventing the iPad to make phone calls. They protect their product lines from each other. As much as I like to see such a feature, I don’t think Apple will ever give it to us.

Which is a very sad conclusion because Steve Jobs was very explicit that they had to cannibalize their own products or someone else would.

SJ said a lot of things. There is nothing courageous about cannibalizing an iPod that had an average selling price of $200 and a much smaller market with a phone that is three times more expensive

Re: iPhone 15’s shift to USB-C

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Post by yellow_lead »

input_sh wrote: post #5

How does the author make the logical leap from "it'll use Type C" to "it'll have Samsung DeX equivalent"? I think it's too much of a gimmick for Apple to even try, plus Apple is really not known for giving a damn about making their products work well with third-party peripherals.

If the EU requires additional app stores to be supported, that door could open whether Apple likes it or not.

Re: iPhone 15’s shift to USB-C

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Post by NietTim »

rffn wrote: post #9

Apple would cannibalize their computer and iPad sales if they were supporting the thin client model like Samsung DeX. See how they already avoid cannibalization of the iPhone business by preventing the iPad to make phone calls. They protect their product lines from each other. As much as I like to see such a feature, I don’t think Apple will ever give it to us.

For this reason I've been, naively, patiently waiting for the first "m1 ipad" to run full mac os trough jailbreaking or something
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