Who forced you to use Microsoft (at home).
Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
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Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
I installed Windows on a media PC (all other laptops are macOS or Linux) and it was like the entire OS is a web browser without ad block installed. Just endless nags, pop ups, notifications, ads in my start menu, ads in the login screen, holy shit. Who actually likes this? It’s insane!
> Who actually likes this? Microsoft.
I don't think they like it. But their customers - advertisers - sure do.
Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ubuntu is now bundling advertisements for their paid services in apt upgrade output and the GUI software sources manager, in packages which cannot be uninstalled because they're hard dependencies of the `ubuntu-desktop` metapackage. Plus they've replaced Firefox with a package which installs a Snap, which loads so slowly they added a "snap opened" notification.
This is one of the reasons why I stopped using Ubuntu and switched to pop os. Is there something keeping you from switching to another Debian derivative?
Honest question, why not just Debian and use a derivative instead? I took a 20 year sabbatical on Linux in the home. But with windows 11, I decided to go back. Stopped on debian, and chose Debian when I came back. I am super impressed with how it has matured and it seems to be built in a way that really does a fair job on looking out for you as a user, and as an administrator.
Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
#34I gave my old parents the latest hand-me-up laptop and installed ubutntu on it because of windows 11. The install process and default configuration is so user hostile to someone that "just needs to use chrome". My niece & nephew have only known ChromeOS/iOS/Android. They will never use windows until a college course requires some specific software, or they get a desk job. I think they will for sure eventually "learn…
Ubuntu is now bundling advertisements for their paid services in apt upgrade output and the GUI software sources manager, in packages which cannot be uninstalled because they're hard dependencies of the `ubuntu-desktop` metapackage. Plus they've replaced Firefox with a package which installs a Snap, which loads so slowly they added a "snap opened" notification.
If they keep messing it up, you can try Arch Linux.
Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
#35Who forced you to use Microsoft (at home).
Can you actually switch the default browser with group policy? What if your team only has the bandwidth to support a couple browsers, and your users say they want Chrome and Firefox?
Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
#36I gave my old parents the latest hand-me-up laptop and installed ubutntu on it because of windows 11. The install process and default configuration is so user hostile to someone that "just needs to use chrome". My niece & nephew have only known ChromeOS/iOS/Android. They will never use windows until a college course requires some specific software, or they get a desk job. I think they will for sure eventually "learn…
Ubuntu kinda sucks now too. "Sign up for an account" is part of the install flow just like Windows. Fedora is my default "easy" Linux install nowadays, the excessively corporate vibes I get from Ubuntu feel very wrong for a Linux distro.
First, there's nothing overbearing about the Ubuntu install.
Second, Fedora uses rpm management, rpm repositories sooner or later corrupt themselves, happened to me and others I know on Red Hat, on Fedora and on SuSE.
I'd use Debian but I've found Ubuntu's driver management to be far more stable and reliable, especially for WiFi.
Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
#37I don't care for edge for the most part, but there is actually one integration with edge that I have come to like. When I click on an email link inside outlook, edge opens the link, and also displays a sidebar which displays the email. Super handy IMO.
Somehow we need to find a balance that allows vendors to tightly integrate their apps but prevent abusing this.
MS is everyone's favorite whipping boy, but I fear what kind of ads Google while shove through if they ever get a dominant market share in desktop OSs. Apple seems to be the only sensible alternative.
Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
#38Looks like nothing much has changed on Microsoft's end. I posted this 2 years ago on HN[1] about how Microsoft goes out of its way to manipulate users when they search for "Firefox" on Bing using Edge: > Tangentially related, but I recently spun up a Windows VM and used Edge to search Bing for "Firefox" and this is result I got[2]. > It's a giant banner that says, "You're already browsing in Microsoft Edge. Keep usin…
Ironically I think non-power users will begin every browsing session by typing "www.google.com" into the address bar, avoiding this issue entirely.
Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
#39... If they could just do it to Chrome but leave Firefox alone.
Re: Microsoft has not stopped forcing Edge on Windows 11 users
#40Microsoft is also forcing office 365 support to end on windows servers in 2025/2026. It's going to be a blood bath if you run on prem.
Meh. I just use text files and emacs. And I hacked sc to use emacs key bindings for spreadsheets. It's far from an ideal system, but it works for me. Simplicity can be nice.
It's like saying I'm having engine trouble on my big rig, and you telling me about how you upgraded your tennis shoes.