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New JFK assassination revelation could upend the lone gunman theory

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It’s an amazing bit of history. Leaders of major powers have regularly been assassinated in history. Here the leader of a globally hegemonic nation was assassinated on camera.

Google tells me the number of leaders/former leaders assassinations in recent history that have been caught on camera is indeed very low. Kennedy, Gaddafi, Shinzo Abe, Benazir Bhutto, Yitzhak Rabin, Rajiv Gandhi, Anwar Sadat.

Rabin assassination has a pretty weird conspiracy theory though

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I don't know why people are so obsessed with this conspiracy theory. Occam's Razor says it was Oswald. Why invest time speculating and arguing over it when there is no way to verify anything? This new revelation doesn't change anything, it's just hearsay.

Oswald was a marine sharpshooter, and it took him 3 shots with a scoped rifle (probably at point blank range, though I don't know the ballistics of that gun). That suggests it wasn't Oswald. Though even then Oswald clearly would have been standing next to the unknown shooter urging him to do it.

The shots were at 175, 240, and 270 feet[1]. It had a 4x scope[2].

[1] https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/h...

[2] https://web.archive.org/web/20110724214814/http://www.aarcli...

Re: New JFK assassination revelation could upend the lone gunman theory

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Occam's Razor says that the guy framed to be the fall guy on this literal world changing event was killed mere ours after the fact on live television, "ending the story". It's amazing that people in 2023 can be just as accepting of the mainstream narrative as the average joes in the 60s, that were subjected to a top down narrative decided by the powers that be using 3 TV channels and 2 newspapers.

How did killing Oswald end the story? You bringing it up proves that it only inflamed the issue and made it more attractive to conspiratorial readings!

Because he couldn't be questioned.

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The problem with conversations about this topic and similar topics (9/11) is that almost no-one who cares about the topic deeply enough to have an argument about it online is interested because they're just super into ballistics and forensics and don't care about the political implications. It's all motivated reasoning because they don't like the _implications_ of the official story for whatever reason (or, alternati…

And sadly the list of topics for which this is an excellent description of human behaviour seems to grow steadily.

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It sounds as silly as precisely identifying and numbering who killed Caesar. Those murders changed the history. Just like those non-murders would have done. History took its turns back then. Knowing the precise identity and number of killers won't give any extra useful detail. IMHO.

Re: New JFK assassination revelation could upend the lone gunman theory

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I don't know why people are so obsessed with this conspiracy theory. Occam's Razor says it was Oswald. Why invest time speculating and arguing over it when there is no way to verify anything? This new revelation doesn't change anything, it's just hearsay.

If one person talks it could help others to talk.

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> Occam's Razor says it was Oswald I think it doesn’t. That’s why the story has never come to rest, there’s simply too many question marks about the whole thing

What open questions? He clearly had access to the place where the shots were fired, and knew how to use a gun. The shot was not particularly difficult.

I completely agree with you that it was Oswald but the weird parts of this story are:

1. Oswald defection from the army and time in the Soviet Union

2. Oswald going to the Cuban and Soviet embassies before the murder (possibly starting a third world war)

3. The subsequent assassination of Oswald

This can be mostly explained by a mental disorder but it is still a messed up story

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The problem with conversations about this topic and similar topics (9/11) is that almost no-one who cares about the topic deeply enough to have an argument about it online is interested because they're just super into ballistics and forensics and don't care about the political implications. It's all motivated reasoning because they don't like the _implications_ of the official story for whatever reason (or, alternati…

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The problem with conversations about this topic and similar topics (9/11) is that almost no-one who cares about the topic deeply enough to have an argument about it online is interested because they're just super into ballistics and forensics and don't care about the political implications. It's all motivated reasoning because they don't like the _implications_ of the official story for whatever reason (or, alternati…

> Probably if you're about to comment on this post, you've got some motivated reasoning behind it that has nothing to do with finding out what really happened.

I'm not sure that's true in this case. I remember 9/11, but I wasn't even born yet when the Kennedy assassination happened. I doubt that many people under age 70 remember that personally. It doesn't really have emotional salience for most people now. For me, it's merely a curiosity, and I can't say that the truth of the matter is important to me either way.

Even if there was a conspiracy to kill JFK, I don't see how it's relevant to current politics, and the possible players involved are no longer relevant either. Joe Biden himself, old as he is, was only 21 at the time and still in college.

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