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Re: A Texas semiconductor boom on the horizon?

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Post by foota »

kurthr wrote: post #27
bob1029 wrote: post #18

> Underscoring this momentum, Samsung and UT announced a plan to formalize a years-long partnership between the two organizations to support a semiconductor manufacturing talent development pipeline. I think this is a fantastic plan. Having an actual employer who will more-or-less take you by default is a much better value proposition for college than some other paths... The proximity of the university campus to the…

Reliable water and electricity, as well as geology, are really important too. It's worth checking into those first two, but it's probably fine for the next 10-20 years.

In Texas? The state currently dealing with a power crisis and looking to restrict the ability to build renewable energy?

Re: A Texas semiconductor boom on the horizon?

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Post by shrubble »

foota wrote: post #31
kurthr wrote: post #27

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Reliable water and electricity, as well as geology, are really important too. It's worth checking into those first two, but it's probably fine for the next 10-20 years.

In Texas? The state currently dealing with a power crisis and looking to restrict the ability to build renewable energy?

They just had a big power crisis (summer AC, maximum GWh usage) and survived.

Re: A Texas semiconductor boom on the horizon?

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Post by robmsmt »

retSava wrote: post #15
adamc wrote: post #7

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Just an idiom note: It's "intents and purposes" not "intensive purposes". Easy to mis-hear, but something you want to remember before it makes you look ill-educated in a work memo.

It's also exactly the kind of humor I love. Intentional misuse of idioms, homonyms, intentional dangling modifiers, and the like. It's ok if people think I'm stupid, I can always prove them right!

reminds me when a friend said "escape goat" rather than "scapegoat"

Re: A Texas semiconductor boom on the horizon?

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Post by corethree »

saghm wrote: post #29
dehrmann wrote: post #13

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We're probably better off doing away with calculators for standardized tests. There's a nice profit margin on those calculators, but there's also a floor price for electronics at play because at some point, making outdated chips, LCDs, PCBs, etc. doesn't actually get cheaper. So graphing calculators will always cost $30-$100. While they're wildly outdated, it doesn't make sense to arm kids going into standardized tes…

In my freshman E&M physics course, there was no calculus prerequisite, so when we had to answer a question on a quiz or test that would be solved with an integral, the professor said we could just put the integral without needing to evaluate it and he'd mark it as correct. I think this approach makes a lot of sense; understanding the concept of "summing" the value of an expression across a range by using an integral…

I think in Asia though it's expected of highschool students to evaluate the integral without a calculator. Education in the US should at least match what they do in Asia to stay competitive.

Re: A Texas semiconductor boom on the horizon?

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

corethree wrote: post #35
saghm wrote: post #29

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In my freshman E&M physics course, there was no calculus prerequisite, so when we had to answer a question on a quiz or test that would be solved with an integral, the professor said we could just put the integral without needing to evaluate it and he'd mark it as correct. I think this approach makes a lot of sense; understanding the concept of "summing" the value of an expression across a range by using an integral…

I think in Asia though it's expected of highschool students to evaluate the integral without a calculator. Education in the US should at least match what they do in Asia to stay competitive.

There is a lot of rote in Asia, and an over emphasis on classic geometric proofs that have little relevance in today’s world. Yes, we should try as hard as Asia in math, but blindly copying Indian or Chinese education practices isn’t the right way forward.

Re: A Texas semiconductor boom on the horizon?

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Post by corethree »

delfinom wrote: post #2

It's debatable if it'll be much of a boom anywhere in the US. Most uses of chips are in cheap consumer junk overwhelmingly made overseas for bottom dollar. Second after that is actual serious uses for cars, not $1 electronics and more. And once you get into that category you have a finite market that is pretty much mature in terms of consumer reach. For all intensive purposes, the "EV demand surge" is over and existi…

You realize the top of the line chips are coming from Asia right now? The US right now does not have the ability to fab top of the line chips. Only Asia does.

I mention this because it's basically one of the biggest hurdles for a boom other than cost which you didn't mention. The US has to exceed Asia in terms of cost AND raw technological prowess if it wants a boom because it is currently behind by a huge margin.

Re: A Texas semiconductor boom on the horizon?

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Post by corethree »

edgyquant wrote: post #3
delfinom wrote: post #2

It's debatable if it'll be much of a boom anywhere in the US. Most uses of chips are in cheap consumer junk overwhelmingly made overseas for bottom dollar. Second after that is actual serious uses for cars, not $1 electronics and more. And once you get into that category you have a finite market that is pretty much mature in terms of consumer reach. For all intensive purposes, the "EV demand surge" is over and existi…

It may be debatable but the idea the chip surge is “basically over” is laughable. By your logic no nation should ever try to do anything economically because the economy is already done forming, the end of history is here.

History has plenty of examples of nations and economies completely ending. In fact it's so consistent that it's basically a guarantee that the current economy you're living in will be "done" eventually. Therefore it's not a laughable conclusion but a valid possibility. We've seen two major economies descend into this "done" zone with no hope for recovery: Russia and Japan.

Additionally no one is saying to "not to do anything". Try all you want he is simply predicting the outcome of trying.

Re: A Texas semiconductor boom on the horizon?

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Post by corethree »

User23 wrote: post #25
bsaul wrote: post #12

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not sure why you got downvoted, that seemed like a pretty reasonable thing to consider.

I can assure you that the Chinese strategists are. Wang Huning is way to smart not to have and he's just one that's somehow famous enough to be known in the West. I'm sure there are many more strategists of if not equal at least similar caliber working on furthering China's (hopefully) peaceful rise.

It's too chaotic. There are many who want peace but there are many who want war and there are many who will flip their opinion and this is on both sides of the line, the US and China. Anything can occur.

Re: A Texas semiconductor boom on the horizon?

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Post by corethree »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #36
corethree wrote: post #35

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I think in Asia though it's expected of highschool students to evaluate the integral without a calculator. Education in the US should at least match what they do in Asia to stay competitive.

There is a lot of rote in Asia, and an over emphasis on classic geometric proofs that have little relevance in today’s world. Yes, we should try as hard as Asia in math, but blindly copying Indian or Chinese education practices isn’t the right way forward.

Well, with the current state of mathematics in the US education system... blindly following Asia is a step up.

I do agree with you that in theory we can do better than asia, but that is too high of a milestone given that we are basically currently significantly worse than Asia on all fronts.

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