sorry, bud. your site has 'design' as tld but it seems you don't put any mind into content readability on mobile.
Apple vs. Meta: The Illusion of Privacy
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#32Apple's core incentives are misaligned with stealing your data. And that's why they are more trustworthy than facebook. It's that simple.
Apple is first and foremost a lifestyle company, then a b2b platform company, then a hardware company.
The lifestyle company ensures customer acquisition and the 'unreasonable' pricing . The platform company is the revenue, the moat and the golden handcuffs for every 3rd party company who works with Apple. The Hardware company ensures that Apple stays ahead, so no one can be the next Apple.
Apple could be an ads company too.
But ads companies bleed trust. That weakens the value of both Apple the lifestyle company and Apple the hardware company. Apple already skims 30% of your app revenue. They don't need to make money from ads, when they can make money from those who make money from ads. Apple being an ads company would spook the partners of Apple the platform company.
I trust Apple not because they're good. But because selling your data hurts their bottomline. Trust capitalistic incentives and teack records, everything else is virtue signalling.
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#33I think it's unfair to compare Facebook actively screwing us to Apple not adopting your proposed metric on their product and passively allowing a very popular app in their app store. Not a huge fan of Apple, but they aren't Facebook.
I was going to say, nobody believes in any privacy Meta alleges. Even when they do E2EE they still collect anything else about you that they can.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's just tech-speak. To the end user these are two separate apps. And Meta definitely has a way of telling which bits of data came from Threads and which from Instragram. They just chose not to make it easy for the user to delete only Threads data.
The point is that your Threads account is your Instagram account. They're not separate.
So technically too hard to "downgrade" your Threads account back to an Instagram account? Odd.
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#35It's funny they ask me to subscribe to their newsletter using my email in the end without any explanation on how they're going to use it :)
Or you could just log in with the embedded „Log in with Google“ Button. Which ironically probably tracks you too without even clicking it.
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#36I wonder what it will take for people to finally get fed up with creepy advertising companies.
I received a letter from Target that by default they’ll sell my information to unaffiliated third parties and I have to call or write a letter to opt-out. I’m sure I agreed to that at some point (and anyone signing up for a loyalty program that doesn’t cost anything should realize that’s what they are agreeing to, even if they are not explicitly told that), but perhaps they should be required to explicitly list the actual costs to the customer along side the benefits.
Last week I was picking up a prescription at CVS. In between confirming name and address and signing for payment or receipt of Rx they slipped a marketing agreement that I stupidly agreed to before realizing that it wasn’t an agreement related to the prescription purchase. So in someone’s compromised medical state (assuming), when you just want to get medicine to get back to normal they hide an agreement to sell information.
None of this improves my life. I just want to transact money for items and end the relationship until it happens again. I don’t need every advertiser knowing every one of or even habitual purchase I make.
If you work in ad-tech or are responsible for these front-end schemes to collect more information:
1: screw you
2: it’s super creepy and even if you’re not creepy, the stuff you’re working on and the people you are working for are
3: seriously, it’s really disgusting, immoral, and deceptive to find all manor of ways to trick people into agreeing to sell personal information that they assume (rightly) is private (even when done in public)
4: start leaking information on schemes, tricks, & loopholes so something can be done to destroy invasive ad tech
Re: Apple vs. Meta: The Illusion of Privacy
#37I think it's unfair to compare Facebook actively screwing us to Apple not adopting your proposed metric on their product and passively allowing a very popular app in their app store. Not a huge fan of Apple, but they aren't Facebook.
Agree. But the point of the post appears to be to push Apple toward disclosing these bad actors and dark patterns. Shaming Apple might work. (I think we already know that shaming Meta will have no effect.)
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#38If you want privacy guarantees do not install or use anything connected to the internet. Even HN - with stylometry and a motivated actor it's easy to correlate your username here with any other publicly written text. An even more motivated actor could do this with privately written text (you know, all of those data breaches). Stay offline for your safety. This is obviously unrealistic for many in the modern era. So n…
Unless you’re a public figure with troves of available text to your name, I don’t really buy the idea that stylometry could be used to identify normal folks or even link accounts between platforms. I would need to see some reality compelling evidence. Especially because character limits and different use patterns for different platforms could throw a wrench in things.
The HN stylometry site (now dead) was actually pretty effective.
Re: Apple vs. Meta: The Illusion of Privacy
#39I wonder what it will take for people to finally get fed up with creepy advertising companies. I received a letter from Target that by default they’ll sell my information to unaffiliated third parties and I have to call or write a letter to opt-out. I’m sure I agreed to that at some point (and anyone signing up for a loyalty program that doesn’t cost anything should realize that’s what they are agreeing to, even if t…
> I wonder what it will take for people to finally get fed up with creepy advertising companies.
As long as people get "free stuff" people won't get fed up.
Re: Apple vs. Meta: The Illusion of Privacy
#40If you want privacy guarantees do not install or use anything connected to the internet. Even HN - with stylometry and a motivated actor it's easy to correlate your username here with any other publicly written text. An even more motivated actor could do this with privately written text (you know, all of those data breaches). Stay offline for your safety. This is obviously unrealistic for many in the modern era. So n…
Unless you’re a public figure with troves of available text to your name, I don’t really buy the idea that stylometry could be used to identify normal folks or even link accounts between platforms. I would need to see some reality compelling evidence. Especially because character limits and different use patterns for different platforms could throw a wrench in things.
There are probably plenty of people on here with easily identifiable writing styles, either due to neurodivergence (like me) or whatever else. Though, it wouldn't be necessary for me because my username is just my real name and I already use it everywhere anyway.