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Re: Study finds influence of smaller jersey numbers on perception

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Gretzky seemed to do just fine with 99...

I think all else being equal, numbers like xx, x0, and x (<10) are more desirable for perceived significance. If a player desires anything else it's presumably out of some personal significance to them (even if just 'the number I was randomly assigned on my first team').

Re: Study finds influence of smaller jersey numbers on perception

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...in american football. Context and history matter as this is the complete opposite for soccer: - Smaller numbers go to the defenders and big guys - Larger numbers are given to younger & academy player - Numbers like 7, 9, 10, 8 & 6 all have a specific meaning on the pitch So yeah, numbers matter, but so does everything else.

Having grown up in Argentina, it always annoyed me seeing players in any sport with numbers that don’t resemble certain position or role.

That is basically all this study is showing. The NFL (American football) used to subscribe to this and had strict rules over what numbers people could wear. 1-19 were reserved for the smallest players (quarterbacks, punters, and kickers). That was loosened roughly 25 years ago to allow slightly bigger players (wide receivers). They loosened it even more drastically within the last few years to allow most players to wear 0-19. It therefore isn't a surprise that people who see small numbers have a bias to think that player is smaller as that has been historically true. It would be interesting to repeat this study among younger generations of Americans and then international people who have no knowledge of the NFL. I would expect the first group would have a weaker effect and it might disappear entirely for the second group.

Re: Study finds influence of smaller jersey numbers on perception

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having grown up in Argentina, it always annoyed me seeing players in any sport with numbers that don’t resemble certain position or role.

That is basically all this study is showing. The NFL (American football) used to subscribe to this and had strict rules over what numbers people could wear. 1-19 were reserved for the smallest players (quarterbacks, punters, and kickers). That was loosened roughly 25 years ago to allow slightly bigger players (wide receivers). They loosened it even more drastically within the last few years to allow most players to w…

*Number ranges used to be used to indicate a player position, not their size... The average quarterback is significantly larger than the average cornerback, for example, and punters or kickers have no typical size (body size/shape doesn't factor into kicking ability).

Re: Study finds influence of smaller jersey numbers on perception

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I love this so much It’s such a great proof at how absolutely fundamentally tragically terrible humans are at evaluating things consistently based on purely sense perception.

It reinforces my priors that human knowledge is Bayesian (we don’t just take in knowledge, we are constantly comparing it to a prior and updating that prior, but we aren’t aware of our own biases which can take a huge precedence over new information).

Re: Study finds influence of smaller jersey numbers on perception

#36

I love this so much It’s such a great proof at how absolutely fundamentally tragically terrible humans are at evaluating things consistently based on purely sense perception.

It's not a proof. It's one study. Which does back up your point in a way, given how often we tend to treat a single study as truth when it makes news.

Re: Study finds influence of smaller jersey numbers on perception

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post #31
post #20

Gretzky seemed to do just fine with 99...

I think all else being equal, numbers like xx, x0, and x (<10) are more desirable for perceived significance. If a player desires anything else it's presumably out of some personal significance to them (even if just 'the number I was randomly assigned on my first team').

Nobody ever wanted the 69 jersey, for some reason ...

Re: Study finds influence of smaller jersey numbers on perception

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https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/rules-changes/nfl-jerse... Linemen are required to wear higher numbers so it's no surprise that people automatically associate higher numbers with bigger people.

Read the article

> When we looked at the relationship between the ratings of size and slenderness and the numbers, [and] we did a very small range, like from 17 to 19, we see a very robust correlation."

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