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Re: New York’s crackdown on Airbnb began Tuesday

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Post by flashgordon »

wombat-man wrote: post #25
kbos87 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The anti Airbnb narrative always assumes we are talking about some crappy apartment that someone was duped into staying in. Let's entertain the idea for just a minute that you are an extended family visiting NYC. You need 2-3 bedrooms, some amount of space to spread out, and a kitchen could potentially save you some real money vs. eating out for every meal. Hotel rooms like that really don't exist, at least for norma…

ok well it's a 2-3 bedroom apartment a family or roommates can't live in then. Plenty of hotels have rooms with two queens that can comfortably sleep 4 people.

Come on. As much as i hate Airbnb this doesn't paint hotels in a good light for larger groups or those with kids. When you have stricter dietary restrictions cooking our own meals is highly desirable and affordable hotels in this area - nil. Travelling in a group .. okay good luck. What I hate about Airbnb is all the hidden fees and ridiculous homework you have to do when leaving. Regulation could have gone to fix that but yeah here are some flying pigs!

Re: New York’s crackdown on Airbnb began Tuesday

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Post by midoridensha »

gruez wrote: post #8
nine_zeros wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I chuckled myself. Tourists spending thousands to visit the city aren't going to stay 2 hours away in another crap apartment in Jersey.

> I chuckled myself. Tourists spending thousands to visit the city aren't going to stay 2 hours away in another crap apartment in Jersey. Isn't new jersey right across the river from new york, with rapid transit lines going into new york? Your "2 hours" estimate seems wildly inflated.

There's many other places in northern New Jersey that are less than 1 hour away from Manhattan by bus too.

Re: New York’s crackdown on Airbnb began Tuesday

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Post by 23B1 »

borissk wrote: post #6
davewritescode wrote: post #2

> Opponents of the measure, though, claim that the new measure will do significant damage to the tourism industry in New York City — potentially driving would-be visitors to New Jersey Just LOL If you believe is that New Jersey is just waiting in the wings to take tourism from NYC I've got a bridge in Brooklyn available for a good price.

Do you mean New Jersey won't be happy to host more tourists? Why is that?

And as a NJ resident, this place sucks.

Re: New York’s crackdown on Airbnb began Tuesday

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Post by paulgb »

lotsoweiners wrote: post #28
davewritescode wrote: post #2

> Opponents of the measure, though, claim that the new measure will do significant damage to the tourism industry in New York City — potentially driving would-be visitors to New Jersey Just LOL If you believe is that New Jersey is just waiting in the wings to take tourism from NYC I've got a bridge in Brooklyn available for a good price.

I guess Lin-Manuel was right…everything is legal in New Jersey.

Except pumping your own gas.

Re: New York’s crackdown on Airbnb began Tuesday

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Post by runnerup »

throwoutway wrote: post #29
rr808 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jersey City banned AirBnB many years ago already. No rentals allowed Edit - actually they are just strictly regulated. I know my friend gave up hosting after the law went in. https://www.airbnb.com/help/article/2682

Is it irony that the opponents of the measure didn't even know this when they complained this would happen? Or just ignorance

While it’s good to give the benefit of the doubt, in politics it’s foolish to rule out malice without evidence against malice.

Re: New York’s crackdown on Airbnb began Tuesday

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Post by the_gastropod »

kbos87 wrote: post #15
nine_zeros wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I chuckled myself. Tourists spending thousands to visit the city aren't going to stay 2 hours away in another crap apartment in Jersey.

The anti Airbnb narrative always assumes we are talking about some crappy apartment that someone was duped into staying in. Let's entertain the idea for just a minute that you are an extended family visiting NYC. You need 2-3 bedrooms, some amount of space to spread out, and a kitchen could potentially save you some real money vs. eating out for every meal. Hotel rooms like that really don't exist, at least for norma…

The anti-Airbnb narrative I find more common (and compelling) is that they cause even less housing to be available in markets already suffering from low housing supply. New York is a prime example. Airbnb hosts buy up apartments that people could live in, and short-term rent them out to tourists instead.

Re: New York’s crackdown on Airbnb began Tuesday

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Post by [deleted] »

davewritescode wrote: post #2

> Opponents of the measure, though, claim that the new measure will do significant damage to the tourism industry in New York City — potentially driving would-be visitors to New Jersey Just LOL If you believe is that New Jersey is just waiting in the wings to take tourism from NYC I've got a bridge in Brooklyn available for a good price.

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Re: New York’s crackdown on Airbnb began Tuesday

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Post by adriand »

kbos87 wrote: post #15
nine_zeros wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I chuckled myself. Tourists spending thousands to visit the city aren't going to stay 2 hours away in another crap apartment in Jersey.

The anti Airbnb narrative always assumes we are talking about some crappy apartment that someone was duped into staying in. Let's entertain the idea for just a minute that you are an extended family visiting NYC. You need 2-3 bedrooms, some amount of space to spread out, and a kitchen could potentially save you some real money vs. eating out for every meal. Hotel rooms like that really don't exist, at least for norma…

That’s exactly right and that’s what my family and I did when we visited NY. We are a family of four. Typical hotel accommodations suck for families! As you pointed out, it’s not just the space, it’s also the cooking facilities that are so important. Our typical approach is breakfast in the unit, picnic lunches while touring around, dinner out.

Sometimes we’ll cook dinner in our unit too, especially for our kids. If you’re in a city for several days, you get tired of your kids eating pizza and burgers every night because nothing else is familiar (and they do too). They welcome a healthy home cooked meal with the simple foods they are used to. As such going grocery shopping in our new city of residence is a key early part of every trip.

I think the anti-AirBnB narrative also misses a couple of other things:

- this is a huge win for hotels, and one they have lobbied for fiercely.

- there are people who own apartments in NY that couldn’t afford to live there if they weren’t able to earn some money from renting out their space on AirBnB.

Lastly, I’m willing to bet that the housing crisis in NY will continue unabated despite this move.

Re: New York’s crackdown on Airbnb began Tuesday

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Post by wombat-man »

flashgordon wrote: post #31
wombat-man wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ok well it's a 2-3 bedroom apartment a family or roommates can't live in then. Plenty of hotels have rooms with two queens that can comfortably sleep 4 people.

Come on. As much as i hate Airbnb this doesn't paint hotels in a good light for larger groups or those with kids. When you have stricter dietary restrictions cooking our own meals is highly desirable and affordable hotels in this area - nil. Travelling in a group .. okay good luck. What I hate about Airbnb is all the hidden fees and ridiculous homework you have to do when leaving. Regulation could have gone to fix th…

Come on, people live in this city and rent is high as you might have heard. People are getting priced out so middlmen can make bank renting these things?

If staying in a hotel isn't convenient or affordable I'm sorry? Perhaps one day you can figure it out.

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