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Re: Okta Personal

#31

Post by samcat116 » Wed, Aug 30, 2023, 1:00 AM UTC

prepend wrote: post #17

I’ve used Okta for work and I don’t love it. Does anyone love it? I buy it but it seems really expensive and not a fantastic UX. It’s weird how expensive and complicated this is and I’m surprised there aren’t more competitors because the cost should be rather low.

As a former IT admin who administered Okta it’s pretty feature rich and I thought the UX was pretty good compared to Microsoft

Re: Okta Personal

#32

Post by samcat116 » Wed, Aug 30, 2023, 1:01 AM UTC

hnbear wrote: post #12

I didn’t set it up yet, so can’t tell. Is this just a personal version of their janky “sso” where they store passwords and their chrome add-in pastes it into the login prompt? IE, not actual Okta-proper that’s IDP doing SAML or OIDC auth?

I went through the login flow for this and I think this is an architecture similar to 1Password and not just their legacy paste a PW thing. It prompts for a password as well as a second “PIN” for the encryption part

Re: Okta Personal

#33

Post by samcat116 » Wed, Aug 30, 2023, 1:03 AM UTC

One thing I find odd about Okta’s marketing when it comes to Passkeys and passwordless is that they market it as “Biometrics”. I guess this makes sense since the prompts that users see on most platforms are for FaceID/TouchID/Windows Hello. But I, as someone who understands how Passkeys are implemented on these platforms, knows that Okta doesn’t actually deal with any biometrics, nor would I ever want them to.

Re: Okta Personal

#34

Post by Affric » Wed, Aug 30, 2023, 1:32 AM UTC

They killed the apple watch app which has made my life more difficult. App switching, getting out my phone when previously I just needed to look at my wrist.

All in all this is a pass from me because I don't believe Okta are focused enough on their end users. Too guided by the critical mass that exists at the top.

Re: Okta Personal

#35

Post by appleflaxen » Wed, Aug 30, 2023, 1:34 AM UTC

I'm not giving my phone number to a company with a history of poorly handled security problems.

(Sign up requires SMS confirmation)

Re: Okta Personal

#36

Post by kichik » Wed, Aug 30, 2023, 2:06 AM UTC

This must be a joke or a hoax. The ChatGPT blurb made me question it, but the whois data sealed the deal. It's registered on GoDaddy with a private registrant.

https://www.godaddy.com/whois/results.aspx?domain=oktaperson...

Re: Okta Personal

#37

Post by frays » Wed, Aug 30, 2023, 2:16 AM UTC

Been waiting for something like this. SSO for personal users will be awesome!

Re: Okta Personal

#38

Post by jdlyga » Wed, Aug 30, 2023, 2:41 AM UTC

I love getting MFA prompts constantly and getting locked out unexpectedly so much that I can't wait to use it for my personal life too!

Re: Okta Personal

#39

Post by prepend » Wed, Aug 30, 2023, 2:42 AM UTC

samcat116 wrote: post #31

prepend wrote: post #17

I’ve used Okta for work and I don’t love it. Does anyone love it? I buy it but it seems really expensive and not a fantastic UX. It’s weird how expensive and complicated this is and I’m surprised there aren’t more competitors because the cost should be rather low.

As a former IT admin who administered Okta it’s pretty feature rich and I thought the UX was pretty good compared to Microsoft

I use Okta and Microsoft’s Intune/MFA/SSO and I’m not sure which is better. Neither is that great I think.

The think that’s annoying to me is the price is $2-11/user/month for sso. That’s crazy considering orgs have thousands of employees that need this and previous self-hosted solutions from CA and others were $50-100k for unlimited accounts.

And this seems like an odd place per user and it costs similar amounts to support 1000 users as 5000.

Re: Okta Personal

#40

Post by samcat116 » Wed, Aug 30, 2023, 2:45 AM UTC

prepend wrote: post #39

samcat116 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a former IT admin who administered Okta it’s pretty feature rich and I thought the UX was pretty good compared to Microsoft

I use Okta and Microsoft’s Intune/MFA/SSO and I’m not sure which is better. Neither is that great I think. The think that’s annoying to me is the price is $2-11/user/month for sso. That’s crazy considering orgs have thousands of employees that need this and previous self-hosted solutions from CA and others were $50-100k for unlimited accounts. And this seems like an odd place per user and it costs similar amounts to…

Welcome to the enterprise sass industry.

(Also accounts with user counts that high aren’t paying MSRP you see)