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Sexism in Tech. Or: CloudMine pulls its sponsorship of API Jam.

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Post by alinajaf »

angersock wrote: post #22
alinajaf wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Generally speaking men on average will enjoy themselves a lot more if there are pretty girls around. And I wouldn't argue with that. In the short time I was in Japan I blew I don't even want to think about it levels of money on hostess bars and just about all the other sort of fun you can imagine. But really, there's a time and a place for that sort of thing and a hackday/tech-conference just isn't it. > The proble…

"What I do care about is the mountains of gold in them there hills that are ready for the plundering when we learn how to start selling software to women." I am saddened by the implication here that selling good software that solves problems for everyone should somehow be less lucrative then exploiting cultural norms and stereotypes. This mindset is something that we, being in a new field, have a unique opportunity t…

> I am saddened by the implication here that selling good software that solves problems for everyone should somehow be less lucrative then exploiting cultural norms and stereotypes.

I'm not sure I did imply that. I don't think we're particularly good at selling software that solves problems for everyone to women.

Re: Sexism in Tech. Or: CloudMine pulls its sponsorship of API Jam.

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Post by ohyes »

This is insulting to everyone... Why would I take a break from a two day Hackathon to drink beer, work out, and chase women? It is only two days. Presumably, if I wanted to do that, I would go to a bar or the gym. Who the hell do they think their target audience is?

Re: Sexism in Tech. Or: CloudMine pulls its sponsorship of API Jam.

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Post by thisduck »

[deleted] wrote: post #31

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"Perhaps I'm not in the best position to be commenting on this"

Yeah, perhaps not.

Try replacing "Women" with "children" or "Indian people" and reread that. Does that feel right?

Now put yourself in the shoes of an Indian person reading that. How does that feel?

Re: Sexism in Tech. Or: CloudMine pulls its sponsorship of API Jam.

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Post by [deleted] »

thisduck wrote: post #34
[deleted] wrote: post #31

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"Perhaps I'm not in the best position to be commenting on this" Yeah, perhaps not. Try replacing "Women" with "children" or "Indian people" and reread that. Does that feel right? Now put yourself in the shoes of an Indian person reading that. How does that feel?

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Re: Sexism in Tech. Or: CloudMine pulls its sponsorship of API Jam.

#37

Post by thisduck »

[deleted] wrote: post #36
thisduck wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Perhaps I'm not in the best position to be commenting on this" Yeah, perhaps not. Try replacing "Women" with "children" or "Indian people" and reread that. Does that feel right? Now put yourself in the shoes of an Indian person reading that. How does that feel?

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And why would putting women in an ad be any different?

I mentioned Indian because I am of that descent, but that your mind jumped to "illegal" is something you need to examine about yourself. I think this is probably somehow connected to why you can't understand using women for this purpose in this advert is not appropriate.

Re: Sexism in Tech. Or: CloudMine pulls its sponsorship of API Jam.

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Post by bitops »

tptacek wrote: post #29
funkah wrote: post #18

Guy in a polo shirt talking about "chicks": Garden-variety moron. Guy in a C++ shirt talking about "chicks": Representative of the RAMPANT MISOGYNY in our industry.

Guy in a polo shirt talking about "chicks": Garden-variety moron. Guy in a C++† shirt erecting a billboard pointing geeks to "chicks": Representative of the RAMPANT MISOGYNY in our industry. † Really?

Replace C++ with whatever programming language you like, the statement still stands.

Re: Sexism in Tech. Or: CloudMine pulls its sponsorship of API Jam.

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Post by angersock »

alinajaf wrote: post #32
angersock wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"What I do care about is the mountains of gold in them there hills that are ready for the plundering when we learn how to start selling software to women." I am saddened by the implication here that selling good software that solves problems for everyone should somehow be less lucrative then exploiting cultural norms and stereotypes. This mindset is something that we, being in a new field, have a unique opportunity t…

> I am saddened by the implication here that selling good software that solves problems for everyone should somehow be less lucrative then exploiting cultural norms and stereotypes. I'm not sure I did imply that. I don't think we're particularly good at selling software that solves problems for everyone to women.

Sorry, I'll try to rephrase my question slightly.

If the software truly solves problems for everyone, why should we have to pick a marketing strategy that segments the population of potential users (previously stated to be everyone) by sex or gender?

Re: Sexism in Tech. Or: CloudMine pulls its sponsorship of API Jam.

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Post by [deleted] »

thisduck wrote: post #37
[deleted] wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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And why would putting women in an ad be any different? I mentioned Indian because I am of that descent, but that your mind jumped to "illegal" is something you need to examine about yourself. I think this is probably somehow connected to why you can't understand using women for this purpose in this advert is not appropriate.

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