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HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

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Re: HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

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Post by actionfromafar »

badsectoracula wrote: post #28
actionfromafar wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Has ElementaryOS gotten their staff problems fixed yet? I’m also annoyed that they don’t go for Objective C which could make a lot of seasoned Apple developers comfortable, but instead went for a custom language.

> custom language Vala wasn't a custom language for elementaryOS, it already existed for years before the first version of the OS (and i think the first version didn't use any Vala code). It most likely used instead of Objective-C because its object system was built on top of glib's gobject system and elementaryOS used Gtk and a lot of other glib/gobject-based libraries. Using Objective-C would mean they'd have to ba…

Of course they could have used GTK from ObjectiveC, in fact it has been proposed.

Re: HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

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Post by nunodonato »

jnsie wrote: post #11

I wonder if, in the future, stable diffusion or other AI techniques can be used to generate nice icon sets and other UI elements. Not that I'd expect Apple levels of design, but anything to bridge the gap would be nice...I'm primarily a macOS user, secondarily a windows user, and my forays into *nix have always provided a poor first impression. Anecdotal, of course...

that's interesting. I find the icons available for *nix far superior and interesting. The problem is finding out the good stuff, because its hard with the current signal vs noise ratio. I actually dislike the current macOS icon sets, far too colorful and saturated.

Re: HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

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Post by soneil »

wk_end wrote: post #14

I'm not a lawyer but if this gets any traction Apple's gonna get big mad about the branding, aren't they? They're basically swiping original Mac advertising campaign wholesale.

"hello" doesn't show up in https://www.apple.com/legal/intellectual-property/trademark/... which probably makes it much easier.

Re: HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

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Post by pacija »

pipeline_peak wrote: post #15

Contribute to GNUStep if you want to support a legitimate transition for Mac users. Not yet another aqua rip off distro running reskinned Mate. Just get FreeBSD with gnome or mate if you’re so inclined. If you’re using Hello as your daily driver, you’re gonna get your hands dirty getting things to work anyway. Might as well start from core. GhostBSD, MidnightBSD, TrueOS, haven’t people realized FreeBSD is too obscure…

I also find these BlahBlahBSDs silly. Since when is setting desktop themes or tuning a few sysctls "forking" or worth calling a new OS?

Re: HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

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Post by hedora »

EspressoGPT wrote: post #22

> Not a clone of anything, but something with which the long-time Mac user should feel instantly comfortable. The longer I look at the screenshot, the cheekier this advertising seems.

I wonder if they cloned Finder from MacOS 9, which was better than the MacOS X one in pretty much every way.

The screenshot makes me think they might have.

Re: HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

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Post by jchw »

jnsie wrote: post #11

I wonder if, in the future, stable diffusion or other AI techniques can be used to generate nice icon sets and other UI elements. Not that I'd expect Apple levels of design, but anything to bridge the gap would be nice...I'm primarily a macOS user, secondarily a windows user, and my forays into *nix have always provided a poor first impression. Anecdotal, of course...

I'm not a KDE user, but to be honest, I quite like a lot of the KDE designs. I'll admit, KDE design is nowhere near as meticulous as Apple's design, but even since KDE 3 I've always admired the design anyways, just for being colorful and functional.

Focusing too much on style can be a bit of a problem, though. All too often, Linux theming and UX feels very "skin deep" - and obviously, It'd be great if most people focused on stability and robustness at this point.

Re: HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

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Post by bee_rider »

actionfromafar wrote: post #6
bee_rider wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The complaints in the first post there really stood out when I looked at the screenshots on the HelloSystem site. I’m not saying what the complaints are, because I’m curious if they’ll be so obvious to somebody who isn’t primed to look for them. Could someone skip that thread and look directly at the HelloSystem site, then check and see if they also saw the issues in that post? It could be an interesting experiment.

What’s the moratorium for posting a comment here? 20 minutes from now?

I don’t think there needs to be any. Hopefully folks won’t check the follow up posts to mine before checking the site, haha. I think we’re not going to get a scientific sampling anyway, so may as well just let people have fun with it.

Re: HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

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Post by michaelbrave »

jnsie wrote: post #11

I wonder if, in the future, stable diffusion or other AI techniques can be used to generate nice icon sets and other UI elements. Not that I'd expect Apple levels of design, but anything to bridge the gap would be nice...I'm primarily a macOS user, secondarily a windows user, and my forays into *nix have always provided a poor first impression. Anecdotal, of course...

Honestly probably not that hard, could train a model/lora with about 30 images, so gather more than 30 good looking icons, train a model and then take the time to prompt and generate all the icons you need. Then do touchups in gimp/photoshop.

At most would take me a week or so to do I think, more likely less than a day.

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