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Re: SpaceX working with Cloudflare to speed up Starlink service

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Post by panick21_ »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #26
fooker wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Starlink latency is too high if your server is nearby. If it’s on the other side of the earth it beats everything.

Do they actually route all the way across planet using laser interlinks? Are there any tests by someone?

They have both sats with and without lasers. Starlink with lasers are still being rolled out.

So it will depend very much from where to where. The certaintly can go direct.

It would be interesting to know their internal routing logic but I don't think we know.

Re: SpaceX working with Cloudflare to speed up Starlink service

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Post by panick21_ »

thejazzman wrote: post #5
steno132 wrote: post #3

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I wonder if we'll ever find out what his employees are doing. Aren't there tens of thousands? Just sitting around while Elon does all this stuff? Truly incredible!

Why do for Musk companies play this game? CEO gets a lot of credit if he has the right strategy, invests in the right place and puts the right people in control.

Musk a few years ago fired Starlink leadership and took more control and evalute new leaders. Many on HN were doing the usual "haha Musk an idiot" thing but he decitions have clearly lead to a successful program.

If Musk was the CEO for a year and Starlink was develope before, he might be getting to much credit. But he has literally been in charge for 20 years now.

Literally everybody understands that SpaceX has lots if people working on these projects.

Re: SpaceX working with Cloudflare to speed up Starlink service

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Post by panick21_ »

duttonw wrote: post #7
steno132 wrote: post #3

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except for the issue where Elon just on a whim decided to geofence the spaceX usage in Ukraine/Russia conflict to not allow it to work when near the border or in Russia :/ per article: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/08/28/elon-musks-sha...

What does that have to do with anything. Why zoes Musk get shit on for one very minor ristriction when the system he built is literally helping a nation being invaded. But instead of talking about that people bring up anything that is not 100% perfect.

Re: SpaceX working with Cloudflare to speed up Starlink service

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Post by panick21_ »

shaklee3 wrote: post #17
steno132 wrote: post #3

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Starlink is not as amazing as it's made out to be. There have been many LEO constellations before it, but due to the space industry as a whole being unattractive to investors, it didn't get any attention until musk got into it. Starlink as a technology is nothing new; what is new is their launch cadence that gives them the ability to put so many satellites into space. They are still not making money and will require…

So much nonsense. Starlink is nothing new lol. And sure launch is the only thing differnet about it, mmh sure.

You shit on Starlink and then hype up OneWeb a system that is generations behind technologically, went bust and has far, far, far less capability. While also being worst for space pollution.

Also SpaceX just made a profit, despite investment in future Starlink and Starship. Starlink is already cashflow positive and its still in its first generation.

Re: SpaceX working with Cloudflare to speed up Starlink service

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Post by panick21_ »

ryzvonusef wrote: post #30
7e wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He claimed to have been admitted into graduate program at Stanford. That was likely just the masters program. Regardless, that’s the “didn’t finish part” as he admitted he dropped out. His BA diploma is missing any reference to physics. This is the same school that graduated Donald Trump. More doubt here: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/musk-physics-degree/

from your own link: >In 2019, Aaron Greenspan, owner of the legal website Plainsite, as well as a frequent critic of, and litigant against, Elon Musk, asked Penn for a statement on Musk's degrees. In response, the university's public affairs office stated that: >>Elon Musk earned a B.A. in physics and a B.S. in economics (concentrations: finance and entrepreneurial management) from the University of Pennsylvania. The…

The issue is that you dont live in delusional fantasy world created people with irrational hate for Musk.

Re: SpaceX working with Cloudflare to speed up Starlink service

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Post by dzhiurgis »

raphaelj wrote: post #29
dzhiurgis wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do they actually route all the way across planet using laser interlinks? Are there any tests by someone?

My guess is that they do not. Routing these packets around the planet would be a huge waste of their limited electrical and transmission resources.

Premium plans would fix that...

Re: SpaceX working with Cloudflare to speed up Starlink service

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Post by shaklee3 »

panick21_ wrote: post #34
shaklee3 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Starlink is not as amazing as it's made out to be. There have been many LEO constellations before it, but due to the space industry as a whole being unattractive to investors, it didn't get any attention until musk got into it. Starlink as a technology is nothing new; what is new is their launch cadence that gives them the ability to put so many satellites into space. They are still not making money and will require…

So much nonsense. Starlink is nothing new lol. And sure launch is the only thing differnet about it, mmh sure. You shit on Starlink and then hype up OneWeb a system that is generations behind technologically, went bust and has far, far, far less capability. While also being worst for space pollution. Also SpaceX just made a profit, despite investment in future Starlink and Starship. Starlink is already cashflow posit…

Then tell me, what is new about starlink? You just refuted it without naming one thing.

They did not make a profit. That was a speculative article and nobody knows how they're accounting for starlink costs.

Re: SpaceX working with Cloudflare to speed up Starlink service

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Post by shaklee3 »

kierank wrote: post #28
shaklee3 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Starlink is not as amazing as it's made out to be. There have been many LEO constellations before it, but due to the space industry as a whole being unattractive to investors, it didn't get any attention until musk got into it. Starlink as a technology is nothing new; what is new is their launch cadence that gives them the ability to put so many satellites into space. They are still not making money and will require…

SpaceX deliberately doesn't make money as they want to invest as much as possible into going to Mars.

That's not how VC investments work

Re: SpaceX working with Cloudflare to speed up Starlink service

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Post by yencabulator »

7e wrote: post #15

Starlink latency is still too high, and goodput is too low, especially as they oversubscribe their service. This will help a bit, but it’s no panacea for Starlink’s woes.

You seem to have forgotten the slogan "Better than nothing". Starlink is the best ISP available to me, and some 10-20x better than its competition. If you can do better with something else, please do.

Re: SpaceX working with Cloudflare to speed up Starlink service

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Post by yencabulator »

shaklee3 wrote: post #17
steno132 wrote: post #3

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Starlink is not as amazing as it's made out to be. There have been many LEO constellations before it, but due to the space industry as a whole being unattractive to investors, it didn't get any attention until musk got into it. Starlink as a technology is nothing new; what is new is their launch cadence that gives them the ability to put so many satellites into space. They are still not making money and will require…

> Starlink as a technology is nothing new

Dishy is the first phased array antenna widely available to consumers, as far as I know.

Starlink is the first low orbit massive satellite constellation. The scale is truly new. The older geostationary communication satellites are a distinctly different system.

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