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The Fandomization of News

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Re: The Fandomization of News

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post #26

When I was 16 there were better things to do than pay attention to the news. I mean if the "adults" were struggling to solve complex issues, why give me anxiety over it. The over riding goal today has become attention capture/Like/View/Click collection. But this is a temporary blip. The story is breaking down with the platforms seeing growth stall, reduction in free content (pushed behind paywalls/login screens), ban…

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Re: The Fandomization of News

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post #26

When I was 16 there were better things to do than pay attention to the news. I mean if the "adults" were struggling to solve complex issues, why give me anxiety over it. The over riding goal today has become attention capture/Like/View/Click collection. But this is a temporary blip. The story is breaking down with the platforms seeing growth stall, reduction in free content (pushed behind paywalls/login screens), ban…

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Re: The Fandomization of News

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If you want to find out whether Lil Tay is dead or alive, it's a bit of a conundrum. Apparently, you can't trust any sites or accounts that she might have, since they could have been hacked. It's unlikely that you could get any government verification like a death certificate right away, and there won't be one if she is still alive, and who trusts the government anyway. The verification that she is alive comes from "a statement provided to TMZ from Tay's family", but is there any reason to trust that? I've never heard of TMZ so have no idea how credible they are, and in any case perhaps somebody spoofed being Tay's family and they didn't check very hard, and Tay is actually dead. What are you going to believe, a video statement from Tay herself perhaps, which may be a deep fake?

Edit: Of course, I have no idea if Tay was a real person in the first place, or just a personality created by deep fakers.

Edit: Wikipedia (dubious of course) says that TMZ is a tabloid owned by Fox Corporation. Yeah, like I trust Fox. let alone some tabloid they own.

Re: The Fandomization of News

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Does anybody have a source (CJ or traditional) that is unbiased? It seems that everything from mass media to small tiktokers are so biased, I can't believe anything they say.

Lack of bias doesn’t exist. Even people who are in good faith trying to be objective can’t help but report the facts through the lens of their worldview. Even reporting that just sticks to facts is colored by what facts reporters choose to highlight, what additional context they elect to provide, and which primary sources they treat as trustworthy.

The best you can hope to do is listen to a range of smart people who are transparent about their priors.

Re: The Fandomization of News

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Take that as a signal. The messaging in journalism has been so thoroughly hijacked that people trust gossip more. I can appreciate that people might pick “unreliable“ over “actively manipulating.”

> The messaging in journalism has been so thoroughly hijacked that people trust gossip more no it hasn't, and no they don't this is an example of a common occurrence: a loud minority incorrectly thinking that their opinions represent those of "[the] people" some other examples are American conservatives with their incorrect ideas of what "[the] people" want, and anti-science advocates with their incorrect views that…

The overwhelming majority of people don’t trust the mainstream media: https://news.gallup.com/poll/403166/americans-trust-media-re...

“28% of U.S. adults say they do not have very much confidence and 38% have none at all in newspapers, TV and radio. Notably, this is the first time that the percentage of Americans with no trust at all in the media is higher than the percentage with a great deal or a fair amount combined.”

According to Pew, Americans trust the media about as much as they trust “big business” (which is not very much). https://news.gallup.com/poll/394283/confidence-institutions-...

You must be in the minority of people who trust the media. :-)

Re: The Fandomization of News

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post #21

Does anybody have a source (CJ or traditional) that is unbiased? It seems that everything from mass media to small tiktokers are so biased, I can't believe anything they say.

Unbiased is the wrong premise. Bias will always exist, so identifying it and consuming the spectrum is the way to see it. Seeing bias is better than avoiding it, as it helps you understand others perspectives (as they consume biased news.) allsides.com is good. Modo News is good.

Looking for different perspectives doesn't seem very helpful in this case. "Tay is dead"; "Tay is alive".

Re: The Fandomization of News

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unbiased is the wrong premise. Bias will always exist, so identifying it and consuming the spectrum is the way to see it. Seeing bias is better than avoiding it, as it helps you understand others perspectives (as they consume biased news.) allsides.com is good. Modo News is good.

Looking for different perspectives doesn't seem very helpful in this case. "Tay is dead"; "Tay is alive".

If you don't trust either statement,you will need to accept the ambiguity and move on.

Re: The Fandomization of News

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post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looking for different perspectives doesn't seem very helpful in this case. "Tay is dead"; "Tay is alive".

If you don't trust either statement,you will need to accept the ambiguity and move on.

Good advice, she can take her place beside Schrödinger's cat.

Re: The Fandomization of News

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I'm a bit flabbergasted as an outsider. Reading these comments, there's such a lack of trust it seems in very basic tenets of society and it's institutions in America. (Dismissing certain factors to a degree I'd understand.) If this were an actual sample (which I hope it's not) the country may just descend into anomie.
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