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Two men die in Ironman Cork competition in Ireland

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Re: Two men die in Ironman Cork competition in Ireland

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Articles a bit thin on details. Was the previous days severe weather a contributing factor? Was it still rough out?

The article is pretty terrible all around. You have to get to the last sentence before they throw in the detail that it's not actually an Ironman race -- it's a half-iron. I wouldn't mind it so much in a general-interest source, but ESPN writers of all people should know the difference and should sweat even the immaterial details. A "so-called" half-iron? No that's actually what it is. No need for the "so-called".

Yeah, that is kind of insulting. Guess people don't realize there are many lengths of triathlons. Fulls and Halfs are typically done together with an extra lap or leg added in for the Full.

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This reminds me of Lebron James' son Bronny suffering cardiac arrest. Fortunately he survived. He's so young he may not have been screened properly. But a lot of people have difficulty affording to be screened. There are different types of screening and Theranos was going to help society with some of it, but of course we all know how that went, and it probably set back advances in screening with technology. Screening…

I don't really feel like Bronny James's story is relevant here- this was due to poor weather conditions, not any type of cardiac issue or lack of screening.

Re: Two men die in Ironman Cork competition in Ireland

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Very sad but it’s not that uncommon. Swimming as fierce and excited pack in open water results in a lot of people getting kicked and thrashed. If you get knocked silly or not even, it’s probably similar to getting trampled but then drowning.

It’s pretty uncommon to have two competitors die in an Ironman race.

Re: Two men die in Ironman Cork competition in Ireland

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure how a criminal scam on the order of "let's just make shit up for results" has any relevance to that.

Because they took money that was intended to improve it? Especially for busy people? These two attempting the half Ironman were likely busy, ambitious people, because people who travel to another country for an endurance event tend to be. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12426285/Two-men-di... > Theranos may have been the worst-case scenario for the testing industry, but the big-picture idea — that testing sh…

I still don’t understand Theranos’s original value prop. Once you are already going in to have blood taken, what difference does it make whether it’s a small amount or a full test tube?

Re: Two men die in Ironman Cork competition in Ireland

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At least they died doing something they loved. Recently overheard a troubling conversation where a triathalon competitor observed a 60+ year old man clearly in major physical distress who refused any kind of assistance. It needs to be first of all understood that these are not necessarily tragedies so much as people taking things way too far and secondly considered that it might be best for everyone that they be allo…

A successful endurance athlete should die peacefully at home surrounded by family and friends. Not like this.

Way to make important life decisions for other people. The hubris needed to declare how other people should choose to die is quite remarkable.

Re: Two men die in Ironman Cork competition in Ireland

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article is pretty terrible all around. You have to get to the last sentence before they throw in the detail that it's not actually an Ironman race -- it's a half-iron. I wouldn't mind it so much in a general-interest source, but ESPN writers of all people should know the difference and should sweat even the immaterial details. A "so-called" half-iron? No that's actually what it is. No need for the "so-called".

Yeah, that is kind of insulting. Guess people don't realize there are many lengths of triathlons. Fulls and Halfs are typically done together with an extra lap or leg added in for the Full.

Not sure I understand the insult. The article mentioned the distances and called it half ironman (Ironman 70.3 might be more correct, but I think everybody calls that half anyway).

Adding the word to the title doesn't make a huge difference to me "Two men die in Half Ironman Cork competition in Ireland"

Re: Two men die in Ironman Cork competition in Ireland

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post #3

At least they died doing something they loved. Recently overheard a troubling conversation where a triathalon competitor observed a 60+ year old man clearly in major physical distress who refused any kind of assistance. It needs to be first of all understood that these are not necessarily tragedies so much as people taking things way too far and secondly considered that it might be best for everyone that they be allo…

It is true that there are a lot of deaths in 'extreme' sports. And people push themselves too far. But I think swimming is an exception. If you are running and in a 'fog', or being 'out of it', because of exertion, then fine, eventually you drop. But in Swimming, the risk is super high, you die. If in the water, and distressed, then the life guards should be able to over-ride someone waving them off.

Re: Two men die in Ironman Cork competition in Ireland

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Theranos was a criminal scam, the reference here is weird.

The headline immediately made me think of healthcare and how to improve it, within the area of sports. It would be better if more people knew the risks and benefits of participating in sports based on their own health statuses.

Maybe you should respond to the article, and not just the headline. Your response is completely off topic and the random promotion of a known fraud is insulting.
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