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Re: Evening Club Bridge Is Dying (2015)

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Post by kuboble » Wed, Aug 16, 2023, 12:43 PM UTC

goeiedaggoeie wrote: post #26

mrob wrote: post #19

I have no interest in bridge, because the rules appear to be designed to maximize cheating. Even if you're using a bidding screen, there's no practical way to close all information side channels during in-person play. And bidding screens do nothing to enforce an even tempo, with this being left to subjective judgement. Regardless of whether it happens or not, cheating is so easy compared to other tabletop games that…

Part of the game is not to close the side channels of information. conventions for calling are very much part of the game. calling 1 Club vs 1 No Trump is a purposeful signal. Its a fun game to play if you don't take it too seriously

How about 1 club vs. One cough club, instant 1 club vs 1 [3s pause] club or 1 club spitted out with a visible disgust?

Re: Evening Club Bridge Is Dying (2015)

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Post by goeiedaggoeie » Wed, Aug 16, 2023, 12:45 PM UTC

kuboble wrote: post #31

goeiedaggoeie wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Part of the game is not to close the side channels of information. conventions for calling are very much part of the game. calling 1 Club vs 1 No Trump is a purposeful signal. Its a fun game to play if you don't take it too seriously

How about 1 club vs. One cough club, instant 1 club vs 1 [3s pause] club or 1 club spitted out with a visible disgust?

I think it is all part of the game. Good opponents learn to read your signals as well. Think of it as reading a tell in poker.

Re: Evening Club Bridge Is Dying (2015)

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Post by bradley13 » Wed, Aug 16, 2023, 12:46 PM UTC

mrob wrote: post #19

I have no interest in bridge, because the rules appear to be designed to maximize cheating. Even if you're using a bidding screen, there's no practical way to close all information side channels during in-person play. And bidding screens do nothing to enforce an even tempo, with this being left to subjective judgement. Regardless of whether it happens or not, cheating is so easy compared to other tabletop games that…

Playing for fun, this isn't relevant. If winning is so important to you that you will cheat your friends, you're a jerk, and won't have friends for long.

Re: Evening Club Bridge Is Dying (2015)

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Post by gowld » Wed, Aug 16, 2023, 1:11 PM UTC

ricardobeat wrote: post #28

londgine wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But it was replaced by a chess club. I assume that similarly intelligent people play chess.

Chess is a 2-player affair only, and not conducive to conversation.

Both of those claims are incorrect.

Re: Evening Club Bridge Is Dying (2015)

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Post by gowld » Wed, Aug 16, 2023, 1:15 PM UTC

LeonardoTolstoy wrote: post #15

rapnie wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. For sports Padel is ultra-hot now. Came out of nowhere and exploded. In Netherlands there are 6-year long waiting lists to join a club.

Great game. Wish it would catch on more quickly in the US, there are basically no courts in the northeast.

Besides fad status, why is better than tennis, badminton, or pickleball?

Re: Evening Club Bridge Is Dying (2015)

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Post by gowld » Wed, Aug 16, 2023, 1:16 PM UTC

WJW wrote: post #12

resolutebat wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Poker is as un-photogenic as bridge, but seems to be doing fine. Of course the demographic and venues it's played in are very different.

Chess is also not a super photogenic sport but is doing fine. Even the local offline chess club is teeming with people both young and old.

Speed chess is doing fine.

Don't have speed bridge.

And chess has horseys.

Re: Evening Club Bridge Is Dying (2015)

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Post by blue1 » Wed, Aug 16, 2023, 1:16 PM UTC

goeiedaggoeie wrote: post #32

kuboble wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about 1 club vs. One cough club, instant 1 club vs 1 [3s pause] club or 1 club spitted out with a visible disgust?

I think it is all part of the game. Good opponents learn to read your signals as well. Think of it as reading a tell in poker.

No, it is not. Perhaps your circle likes it like this, but elsewhere this is cheating. It is forbidden by the rules and is socially unacceptable.

Re: Evening Club Bridge Is Dying (2015)

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Post by blue1 » Wed, Aug 16, 2023, 1:18 PM UTC

AdamN wrote: post #27

xiaodai wrote: post #10

bridge is dying. Period. Go/Weiqi/baduk is the game to go!

Go is a 2 player game that is much less social than bridge - similar to chess in that regard.

Also, there is no randomness in go or chess, unlike bridge.

Re: Evening Club Bridge Is Dying (2015)

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Post by gowld » Wed, Aug 16, 2023, 1:21 PM UTC

goeiedaggoeie wrote: post #26

mrob wrote: post #19

I have no interest in bridge, because the rules appear to be designed to maximize cheating. Even if you're using a bidding screen, there's no practical way to close all information side channels during in-person play. And bidding screens do nothing to enforce an even tempo, with this being left to subjective judgement. Regardless of whether it happens or not, cheating is so easy compared to other tabletop games that…

Part of the game is not to close the side channels of information. conventions for calling are very much part of the game. calling 1 Club vs 1 No Trump is a purposeful signal. Its a fun game to play if you don't take it too seriously

Side channels are explicitly forbidden by the rules.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridge_convention

Re: Evening Club Bridge Is Dying (2015)

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Post by gowld » Wed, Aug 16, 2023, 1:23 PM UTC

amelius wrote: post #18

Not sure in which age-segments, but it's a pity because it used to be an important social activity for the elderly.

It's not more important than canasta.

My grandmother played bridge.

My mother played canasta.

I play Set.

It's just a game.