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Re: YouTube-Dl Site Goes Offline as Hosting Provider Enforces Court-Ordered Ban

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Post by sgjohnson » Fri, Aug 11, 2023, 4:57 PM UTC

d0mine wrote: post #15

branon wrote: post #2

It's laughable how symbolic and ultimately meaningless this is. GitHub has already proven themselves to be a good actor in this particular fight, so not only is the repo online, but we also have http://ytdl-org.github.io/youtube-dl/ The Uberspace provider is appealing the decision as well. Even with the site down, this looks incredibly positive from where I sit. Rightsholders and litigators get stuffed, we always win…

Microsoft is the freedom fighter? That it is indeed laughable.

Microsoft has largely stopped giving a fuck about piracy of their consumer products.

py-kms is freely available on GitHub, and so are Windows Activation Tools.

While arguably py-kms doesn’t violate anything, as it’s a cleanroom implementation of the KMS server, Windows Activation Tools definitely does.

Either way, MS could eradicate all of those repositories, they aren’t doing it.

Re: YouTube-Dl Site Goes Offline as Hosting Provider Enforces Court-Ordered Ban

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Post by Pulcinella » Fri, Aug 11, 2023, 5:01 PM UTC

em-bee wrote: post #22

nektro wrote: post #9

this paves the way to make archiving illegal, is that what germany wants?

worse, it's about making download tools illegal, even if the download itself is legitimate.

Its basically the VCR recording uSA Supreme Court case all over again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corp._of_America_v._Unive....

Re: YouTube-Dl Site Goes Offline as Hosting Provider Enforces Court-Ordered Ban

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Post by sigmar » Fri, Aug 11, 2023, 5:02 PM UTC

nektro wrote: post #9

this paves the way to make archiving illegal, is that what germany wants?

There's even a filter on youtube for searching for 'creative commons' content. This ruling seems to make it very difficult to download that content (explicitly intended to be shared and remixed) and illegal to work on software that makes it easier.

Re: YouTube-Dl Site Goes Offline as Hosting Provider Enforces Court-Ordered Ban

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Post by mellosouls » Fri, Aug 11, 2023, 5:03 PM UTC

Discussion on the RIAA attack from a couple of years ago mentioned in the article.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24872911

The github reversal at the time, including a link to evidence received in support:

https://github.blog/2020-11-16-standing-up-for-developers-yo...

Re: YouTube-Dl Site Goes Offline as Hosting Provider Enforces Court-Ordered Ban

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Post by backtoyoujim » Fri, Aug 11, 2023, 5:03 PM UTC

"it’s good enough to signal to average users that downloading content from YouTube is not permitted."

that sure seems like doublespeak. i have to download the video to watch it.

Re: YouTube-Dl Site Goes Offline as Hosting Provider Enforces Court-Ordered Ban

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Post by can16358p » Fri, Aug 11, 2023, 5:04 PM UTC

qingcharles wrote: post #26

This is why I'm setting up a reverse proxy on another host in front of my web site, in case I get some fake takedown request from a competitor that causes my host to delete my account. At least if I use a proxy I can spend a small amount of time setting up a new proxy. I used to have a competitor who would email PayPal every couple of weeks to tell them our web site had CP on it just so PayPal would instantly shut of…

So PayPal's policy is "guilty until proven innocent".

Nice, hope they go bankrupt.

Re: YouTube-Dl Site Goes Offline as Hosting Provider Enforces Court-Ordered Ban

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Post by ikekkdcjkfke » Fri, Aug 11, 2023, 5:05 PM UTC

xeromal wrote: post #12

charcircuit wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yt-dlp is not youtube-dl

They said they moved on to yt-dlp

I would run any such binary in a container og some sort anyway

Re: YouTube-Dl Site Goes Offline as Hosting Provider Enforces Court-Ordered Ban

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Post by croes » Fri, Aug 11, 2023, 5:05 PM UTC

nektro wrote: post #9

this paves the way to make archiving illegal, is that what germany wants?

It is even more perverse.

There is a right to private copying, you pay additional fees for media such as CDs, DVDs and USB sticks, but it is illegal to circumvent copy protection for copying.

Re: YouTube-Dl Site Goes Offline as Hosting Provider Enforces Court-Ordered Ban

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Post by pengaru » Fri, Aug 11, 2023, 5:05 PM UTC

sgjohnson wrote: post #31

d0mine wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft is the freedom fighter? That it is indeed laughable.

Microsoft has largely stopped giving a fuck about piracy of their consumer products. py-kms is freely available on GitHub, and so are Windows Activation Tools. While arguably py-kms doesn’t violate anything, as it’s a cleanroom implementation of the KMS server, Windows Activation Tools definitely does. Either way, MS could eradicate all of those repositories, they aren’t doing it.

> Either way, MS could eradicate all of those repositories, they aren’t doing it.

yet

Re: YouTube-Dl Site Goes Offline as Hosting Provider Enforces Court-Ordered Ban

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Post by 0x_rs » Fri, Aug 11, 2023, 5:06 PM UTC

Since it's mentioned, I'd like to remind the continued existence of the so called "District Court" of Hamburg should be an embarrassment to the state of Germany. Their purpose seem to be simply coming up with the most inane judgments as proven repeatedly in the past.