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PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

#31
Windows and its ecosystem have already become a telemetry monster; if you're fine with everything else, you ought to be fine with this. The linked Intel support page shows the simple instructions for opting out of the telemetry.

Having said that, 2022 was already the year of the Linux desktop. Everything works. KDE gets better every week. Be the owner of your technology. Join us!

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

#32
post #15

Telemetry by default should be illegal. They should be required to obtain owner permission.

That would make any site using mixpanel/google analytics/sentry/etc. illegal. Not so easy to enforce.

And wouldn't that be a terrible shame.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

#33
post #2

> Intel CIP is functionally similar to the Telemetry component of the GeForce Software. NVIDIA's Telemetry is installed and enabled by default along with your GeForce graphics drivers, and you cannot opt out from it, as it does not even figure in the "custom" installer options. No idea what data Nvidia collects but this sounds even more shady.

> No idea what data Nvidia connects but this sounds even more shady. It gets worse - if you're on Windows and your driver was not installed by an OEM (if it didn't come with the computer, or you reinstalled the OS or something), GeForce Experience wants you to connect to the internet and sign into an Nvidia account to access some features of the graphics card, like ShadowPlay.

Surely you can just firewall off Nvidia's telemetry servers.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

#35
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No idea what data Nvidia connects but this sounds even more shady. It gets worse - if you're on Windows and your driver was not installed by an OEM (if it didn't come with the computer, or you reinstalled the OS or something), GeForce Experience wants you to connect to the internet and sign into an Nvidia account to access some features of the graphics card, like ShadowPlay.

But thankfully GeForce Experience experience is totally optional, you can just select not to install when you install the driver Honestly it doesn't even have any critical feature https://www.nvidia.com/en-eu/geforce/geforce-experience/

No Shadowplay, no Gamestream (so, if you bought an Nvidia Shield for that, you're screwed. No, Sunshine isn't currently at feature parity with Gamestream), no automatic driver updates (which, in this day and age, are quite important for newer games), no Ansel.

Nothing critical no, but all things that, if you don't have and need, have no real alternative.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

#36
post #15

Telemetry by default should be illegal. They should be required to obtain owner permission.

True. I'm surprised this doesn't go against GDPR.

You don't understand the GDPR then. The focus is on controlling where data goes (not out of the EU), but your point is about telemetry in general. If you keep the data inside the EU and manage it in a way that's compliant with the GDPR then then that telemetry doesn't put you in jeopardy.

If you want to be protected for telemetry then you need to advocate for better legislation. Stating that something is covered by the GDPR ultimately masks the issue because it's not against the GDPR and you lose an opportunity to advocate for better legislation to reduce, or kill telemetry.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

#37
post #20
post #2

> Intel CIP is functionally similar to the Telemetry component of the GeForce Software. NVIDIA's Telemetry is installed and enabled by default along with your GeForce graphics drivers, and you cannot opt out from it, as it does not even figure in the "custom" installer options. No idea what data Nvidia collects but this sounds even more shady.

Nvidia collects all the same data, and you cannot opt out of it if you run GeForce experience.

> if you run GeForce experience

Exactly. It is a reason I never install it when updating Nvidia drivers (yes I know I'm missing out eg. on shadowplay but I don't use it anyway).

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

#38
post #6
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But thankfully GeForce Experience experience is totally optional, you can just select not to install when you install the driver Honestly it doesn't even have any critical feature https://www.nvidia.com/en-eu/geforce/geforce-experience/

Then you will not be able to access some of the features that is advertised for the hardware you bought (like shadowplay).

You can still use alternate front-ends to "shadowplay" like OBS replay buffer.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

#39
post #15

Telemetry by default should be illegal. They should be required to obtain owner permission.

True. I'm surprised this doesn't go against GDPR.

Collecting data is not against GDPR. GDPR is about consent, processes etc.

Whether or not this is compliant depends on the way their installer is set up.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

#40
post #31

Windows and its ecosystem have already become a telemetry monster; if you're fine with everything else, you ought to be fine with this. The linked Intel support page shows the simple instructions for opting out of the telemetry. Having said that, 2022 was already the year of the Linux desktop. Everything works. KDE gets better every week. Be the owner of your technology. Join us!

Is it confirmed that Intel's drivers on Linux aren't doing this too?
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