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Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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Post by rzzzt »

aionaiodfgnio wrote: post #7
nikodunk wrote: post #4

I have 7 HDMI slots on my TV, ready for Peacock Stick, Hulu Disney Plus stick, Netflix Stick, Paramount Plus stick, Max Hub etc etc Not more than seven though mmmkay?

Sounds like you need a KVM.

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Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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Post by robertlagrant »

kneebonian wrote: post #21
afavour wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the reasons the state of smart home TV really disappoints me. Logical conclusion is we'll all end up with Netflix HDMI sticks, Hulu sticks etc etc etc. DRM means we're never going to end up with a fully open TV player.

Why can't you just plug a Linux box into your TV and use that? Like am I taking crazy pills. I got fed up with the madness of all the streaming sticks, and putting in my password with a crappy remote and ended up dropping $300 on an old desktop from a discount computer store. Spent an hour throwing Ubuntu on it, and now bam, works like a charm. I put the youtube, PBS Kids, and Disney+ (which we later removed) icons o…

We use an Xbox One with a remote, which works extremely well.

With your Ubuntu install, was it hard to get it to go above 720p? I see people in this thread saying that's the max.

Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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Post by dakial1 »

Point #1: This bait-and-switch tactic shouldn't be allowed by consumer regulations (Not in the US, but here in Brazil it would be a no-no) as in the end Amazon is tricking it's use base into paying for the Fire TV as a great deal, when in the end they will pay more for streaming as those costs that Amazon is putting on the streaming services will be paid by them in the end.

#2 Wouldn't this movement be (potentially) a great chance for Plex to better position itself in the legal side of streaming? Because by offering a free hub for streaming (even licensing it for hardware sellers like Dlink and others, like Boxee once did) might generate a good revenue stream for them...until somebody buys the whole team (I miss you Boxee!)

Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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Post by cowsup »

amelius wrote: post #16
southwesterly wrote: post #3

This is going to end well.

Yes, for Amazon. Ka-ching!

Short-term, yes. Long-term, these apps and services will start looking into offering hardware solutions of their own to become competitors, not providers.

Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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Post by ndiddy »

elabajaba wrote: post #23
kneebonian wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you know that you could just grab an old computer slap Ubuntu on it, and get all of those services through only 1 HDMI slot?

And then be limited to 720p because you don't have the right DRM because Linux.

That's assuming you get the content through the services themselves rather than through other means.

Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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Post by bdcravens »

Low cost computer, free software updates, backend infrastructure, several years of functional life, for $40 in sales (is there any profit there?). Exactly how is it surprising that they need to make some sort of additional revenue via kickback?

Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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Post by jeffbee »

kneebonian wrote: post #21
afavour wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the reasons the state of smart home TV really disappoints me. Logical conclusion is we'll all end up with Netflix HDMI sticks, Hulu sticks etc etc etc. DRM means we're never going to end up with a fully open TV player.

Why can't you just plug a Linux box into your TV and use that? Like am I taking crazy pills. I got fed up with the madness of all the streaming sticks, and putting in my password with a crappy remote and ended up dropping $300 on an old desktop from a discount computer store. Spent an hour throwing Ubuntu on it, and now bam, works like a charm. I put the youtube, PBS Kids, and Disney+ (which we later removed) icons o…

Most of the major apps have something like scanning a QR code on the display to authorize a device using your mobile, which works well. Others can just cast to a TV, the way YouTube does. But the real problem with just slapping Ubuntu on it is you are losing HD video and often the audio features as well. It's only a good solution if you are indifferent to picture quality.

Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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Post by mschuster91 »

andrewmackrodt wrote: post #26
kneebonian wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you know that you could just grab an old computer slap Ubuntu on it, and get all of those services through only 1 HDMI slot?

I don't have (all of) those services but they're not like for like comparable for any services using Widevine, e.g. Amazon, Netflix and Disney. A Linux install will give you access to L3 content using the browser (usually limited to 720p but you can get a 1080p stream out of Netflix using a browser extension). I think the poster was having a bit of a joke though.

I'm really surprised that no one has bothered (or managed) to create an open-source TEE emulator. I mean, there's a ton of different ARM CPUs around there, and it's all ARM under the hood, so it should be possible to create a virtual TEE/TPM and provide it transparently to a VM?
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