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Re: Brexit Could Be Reversed - Here's How

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Post by mutatio »

mschuster91 wrote: post #15
mutatio wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The currency is a hard no, even from hardent remainer quarters. The Euro and the ECB haven't even been a success for the EU as-is, a single fiscal policy cannot reconcile the economies of Germany and Greece. The hubris of the UK submitting to the Euro isn't pragmatic or in the realms of reality. Participation from the UK hardly changes things also, making it come across almost vindictive.

> The Euro and the ECB haven't even been a success for the EU as-is, a single fiscal policy cannot reconcile the economies of Germany and Greece. Of course it has been a success. I (half-German, half-Croatian) grew up in times where each of the borders from Germany to Croatia had anything from 1-4 hours of waiting time, you'd need to exchange currency at each border (at outrageous rates) as well simply to be able to…

What year was this? The removal of a lot of this financial friction was coming to and end regardless of the Euro or ECB. Didn't Croatia only join the Euro this year? I'm finding it hard to believe this archaic mechanism existed up until Jan 2023, that is to say I find the example slightly disingenuous.

The friction between Ireland and the UK is near zero, both have different currencies.

This isn't to say there aren't benefits to the Euro; on an individual level of course not thinking about exchanging or exchange rates makes life easy. It's simply not palatable to the UK, Brits or the core financial institutions by which its service oriented economy excels.

Re: Brexit Could Be Reversed - Here's How

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Post by ProxCoques »

scott_w wrote: post #21

I’ve only read half the article and stopped because it seems the author is hopelessly ignorant about some basic facts: - The EU won’t start the process to admit the UK until joining is politically settled - Until the Tory party is also onboard with rejoining, it can’t be politically settled - The Tory party will only get onboard when it’s no longer possible to win power without wanting to rejoin - Despite there being…

"ALL polls showing a majority rejoin exclude “Don’t knows”

That'll be like the referendum then.

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Post by kamma4434 »

The net result of Brexit was a disaster for Britain, and basically ‘who cares’ for Europe. I think that if Britain wants to join, as they say, beggars don’t get to choose.

As a European citizen, I think that Britain belongs in Europe. On the other hand it’s time to grow up for Europe.

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Post by hcayless »

c7DJTLrn wrote: post #11

There's no way it will happen, the damage has been done and besides, the politicians don't want it. The referendum should've been nullified when the scale of political interference via social media in 2016 came to light. Also, 52% to 48% is not a resounding "yes" and should not have been considered as one.

More to the point 2/4 countries in the UK voted remain and got dragged out of the EU anyway.

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Post by rightontarget »

kramerger wrote: post #9

Please don't. Things have been so much smoother in the EU since UK left. Their politicians had this idea that Europe was out to screw them in every deal and that made it a very annoying 30 years of "collaboration".

EU is growing at interplanetary speeds since 2016.

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Post by rst »

c7DJTLrn wrote: post #11

There's no way it will happen, the damage has been done and besides, the politicians don't want it. The referendum should've been nullified when the scale of political interference via social media in 2016 came to light. Also, 52% to 48% is not a resounding "yes" and should not have been considered as one.

Or a second referendum held once the terms of the actual withdrawal deal were known, and fell far short of the Leave campaign's promises of, in effect, retaining all the benefits of membership. The EU was still declaring at that point that were the UK Parliament to vote to end the Article 50 process and retain membership, they'd be willing to forget the whole thing.

Re: Brexit Could Be Reversed - Here's How

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Post by mst »

mschuster91 wrote: post #15
mutatio wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The currency is a hard no, even from hardent remainer quarters. The Euro and the ECB haven't even been a success for the EU as-is, a single fiscal policy cannot reconcile the economies of Germany and Greece. The hubris of the UK submitting to the Euro isn't pragmatic or in the realms of reality. Participation from the UK hardly changes things also, making it come across almost vindictive.

> The Euro and the ECB haven't even been a success for the EU as-is, a single fiscal policy cannot reconcile the economies of Germany and Greece. Of course it has been a success. I (half-German, half-Croatian) grew up in times where each of the borders from Germany to Croatia had anything from 1-4 hours of waiting time, you'd need to exchange currency at each border (at outrageous rates) as well simply to be able to…

Everything except the money changing on your list could be achieved without the Euro.

I was a remainer and I'd love to rejoin and Schengen, the mobile roaming stuff, etc. are all wonderful and I would like them back.

I'm not convinced the Euro would be a good idea and I'm absolutely convinced that you'd lose public support for rejoining if you tried to go that route.

I keep wondering if EEA + Schengen would be a viable middle ground.

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