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Re: Cities with their own psychological disorders

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Post by dghughes »

iamdamian wrote: post #11

Something's off about this list. I can't find Brooklyn Syndrome on Wikipedia and think the description is confusing. The main source I found on Brooklyn Syndrome is from the Names journal [0], which has a nearly identical description. I wonder if this article is a direct copy of that journal article with lazy paraphrasing from the Atlas Obscura writers to avoid plagiarism. If so, this makes me wonder how much of Atla…

> I can't find Brooklyn Syndrome on Wikipedia

Maybe nobody added it.

Re: Cities with their own psychological disorders

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Post by bratgpttamer »

praptak wrote: post #23
jbandela1 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe we should have a Bejerot Syndrome. This is where an “expert” impugns the intellect or morality of the people who disagree with them instead of trying to understand the very real reasons why.

That certainly sounds tempting but we should struggle to have less poorly substantiated syndromes, not more :-)

Agreed - but, isn't character assassination a classic technique of authorities employed against those who disagree with them?

Re: Cities with their own psychological disorders

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Post by throwaway290 »

makeitdouble wrote: post #6
cstejerean wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> One of the hostages even became engaged to one of her captors Was that also because of distrusting the police?

> She had criticized the police for pointing guns at the convicts while the hostages were in the line of fire and she had told news outlets that one of the captors tried to protect the hostages from being caught in the crossfire So yes, she became engaged to someone who tried to save her life from the police. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome#Stockholm_b...

> So yes, she became engaged to someone who tried to save her life from the police.

Uhm, after that "someone" joined a gang and took her hostage in order to steal money? If that's logical that sounds like a problem, whether theory is shoddy science or not the thing is real if even you, not victim, fall into that delusion.

People can be thankful to someone who improves things even if that someone creates the horrible situation in the first place. It's a problem and in politics too. Give people more comfortable life and they praise you even if your bad policies are the reason they famished previously. We remember good stuff and forget stuff that bums us out. Your comment exemplified that mistake.

Re: Cities with their own psychological disorders

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Post by ethbr0 »

> (on Paris Syndrome uniquely afflicting Japanese tourists) Or it could be the jarring confrontation of the a priori ideal of Paris as exotic and friendly with the rather more abrasive nature of the city’s inhabitants.

Having visited Tokyo (which I assume is the most Paris-like Japan gets?) and Paris (just got back from most recent trip), this rings true.

Average "mild annoyance" from a Parisian would equal "severe disrespect" from a Tokyo resident.

Plus add in the French propensity not to apologize for normal, everyday oops-type things, and I imagine it'd be very jarring.

That said, on my most recent trip to Paris, I actually found Parisians a lot nicer than the last time I was there (~1995ish?).

There's a lot of Gallic-isms, but even as an American with extremely bad and limited French, most people were very nice.

PS: Not sure why tacos are the new craze in Paris, but y'all should really import some Tejanos to get the full experience. Feta never belongs on a taco that's not shrimp.

Re: Cities with their own psychological disorders

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Post by joncrane »

zgluck wrote: post #13
meigwilym wrote: post #3

I'm no expert, but wasn't Stockholm Syndrome debunked? My understanding is that the response to the hostage taking was so incompetent that the hostages trusted the kidnappers more than the police. One of them was expected to "die at her post" by a bank executive. She refused to testify against them for these reasons rather than any sympathy to their cause.

One of them was expected to "die at her post" by a bank executive. I wasn't a bank executive, it was the the social democratic prime minister Olof Palme. During a phone call he asked one of the hostages: "wouldn′t it be nice to die at your post?" https://sverigesradio.se/artikel/591659 ( https://blogs.loc.gov/law/2021/03/the-murder-of-swedish-prim... )

Wow, this adds some context to his assassination, which is still one of the greatest unsolved mysteries of our time.

Re: Cities with their own psychological disorders

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Post by dopidopHN »

ethbr0 wrote: post #35

> (on Paris Syndrome uniquely afflicting Japanese tourists) Or it could be the jarring confrontation of the a priori ideal of Paris as exotic and friendly with the rather more abrasive nature of the city’s inhabitants. Having visited Tokyo (which I assume is the most Paris-like Japan gets?) and Paris (just got back from most recent trip), this rings true. Average "mild annoyance" from a Parisian would equal "severe d…

The tacos you saw are a riff on kebab. They are tacos in name only. ( TINO if you like )

Re: Cities with their own psychological disorders

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Post by delecti »

joncrane wrote: post #36
zgluck wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of them was expected to "die at her post" by a bank executive. I wasn't a bank executive, it was the the social democratic prime minister Olof Palme. During a phone call he asked one of the hostages: "wouldn′t it be nice to die at your post?" https://sverigesradio.se/artikel/591659 ( https://blogs.loc.gov/law/2021/03/the-murder-of-swedish-prim... )

Wow, this adds some context to his assassination, which is still one of the greatest unsolved mysteries of our time.

If he was that big of a jackass, maybe his murder wasn't an assassination at all. Maybe someone was just fed up with his shit.

Re: Cities with their own psychological disorders

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Post by Doches »

ethbr0 wrote: post #35

> (on Paris Syndrome uniquely afflicting Japanese tourists) Or it could be the jarring confrontation of the a priori ideal of Paris as exotic and friendly with the rather more abrasive nature of the city’s inhabitants. Having visited Tokyo (which I assume is the most Paris-like Japan gets?) and Paris (just got back from most recent trip), this rings true. Average "mild annoyance" from a Parisian would equal "severe d…

It's hard to pick up on as an American, but "French Tacos" actually don't have any genealogy in common with Tex-Mex tacos. They're essentially north African shwarma (lamb kebab, fries, cheese sauce, lettuce shoved in a wrap) re-marketed in a way that doesn't invoke knee-jerk racism from the French mainstream. Calling them "tacos" lets them get away with being exotic, and since the average Français doesn't really have any preconceived notions about Mexico or Mexican food either way it doesn't conjure up any negative associations. Calling them "Le French Tacos" is even more re-assuring -- they're tacos, but 'frenchified', so they must be OK.

But that same light-skinned frenchman would turn up his gallic nose an authentic arabic shwarma, even stumbling from from le bar at 2am. That the only difference between a good shwarma and a good French taco is /maybe/ the choice of cheese makes no difference...

(Source: live in Toulouse, have snarky Lebanese friends)

Re: Cities with their own psychological disorders

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Post by piuantiderp »

ethbr0 wrote: post #35

> (on Paris Syndrome uniquely afflicting Japanese tourists) Or it could be the jarring confrontation of the a priori ideal of Paris as exotic and friendly with the rather more abrasive nature of the city’s inhabitants. Having visited Tokyo (which I assume is the most Paris-like Japan gets?) and Paris (just got back from most recent trip), this rings true. Average "mild annoyance" from a Parisian would equal "severe d…

Bro, no one with a clue goes to Texas for tacos. Maybe Cali, but I don't bother for the most part in the US. Am Mexican
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