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Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by inkcapmushroom » Wed, Jul 26, 2023, 4:18 PM UTC

whycome wrote: post #20

jmclnx wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Glad to hear that, not like there is nothing else important happening in the US. What next, hearings on Big Foot :)

The hearing is utterly bizarre and surreal. Like theater but everyone is keeping a straight face. (also, 'Mrs. Luna' is asking questions and her character name seems too on-the-nose.) Former commander says he didn't believe in UFOs and defends himself with "I never watched history channel or anything like that" -- as though that's a source for UFOs rather than...history.

>as though that's a source for UFOs rather than...history

Maybe you haven't watched the History Channel recently, but there is indeed a lot of stuff about aliens on there. Possibly more stuff about aliens than about actual history.

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by philwelch » Wed, Jul 26, 2023, 4:20 PM UTC

monkeynotes wrote: post #23

jmclnx wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Glad to hear that, not like there is nothing else important happening in the US. What next, hearings on Big Foot :)

I don't think any military captains, and colonels will be testifying on oath to the existence of Bigfoot in front of Congress. So no, that's not next. What's actually happening is pretty crazy and anyone who has a small amount of curiosity should give it some consideration. It seems foolish just to dismiss this with a scoff.

Military captains and colonels have engaged in psyops and deceptions as long as there have been captains and colonels.

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by mattmaroon » Wed, Jul 26, 2023, 4:20 PM UTC

mcpackieh wrote: post #17

candiddevmike wrote: post #5

In theory, Congress should already know about the existence or not existence of aliens/UFOs, so what's the point here? To show that congress isn't being informed?

Presuming there was actually some aliens/UFOs to know about in the first place (I'm pretty confident there aren't any actual alien UFOs, but that doesn't mean there aren't secret programs dedicated to UFOs), it is likely that most of congress wouldn't know about it and only a few congressmen on the right committees would know. Not every member of congress is informed of all the secrets the American government has. Pa…

I have always felt that given how far away they must be, and the challenge involved in crossing that space, the most ridiculous belief is that some extra-terrestrial intelligent life is simultaneously able to build ships that get here (meaning they're far more technologically advanced than us) and yet not able to hide them from us. Or that they get here and have a breakdown right over New Mexico. Or their drone couldn't just self-destruct before we got it. Etc.

While the odds are almost 100% that there's intelligent life somewhere, the idea that it got here and then made a mistake seems strange to me.

And I've always thought the military didn't investigate these UFOs because they weren't unidentified to them. They're just FOs when you're the one who built them.

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by themagician » Wed, Jul 26, 2023, 4:20 PM UTC

monkeynotes wrote: post #23

jmclnx wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Glad to hear that, not like there is nothing else important happening in the US. What next, hearings on Big Foot :)

I don't think any military captains, and colonels will be testifying on oath to the existence of Bigfoot in front of Congress. So no, that's not next. What's actually happening is pretty crazy and anyone who has a small amount of curiosity should give it some consideration. It seems foolish just to dismiss this with a scoff.

It might be if more details about the super solider program are leaked and they can be linked to non-earth origin DNA. I mean, for christ's sake there are literal hair samples.

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by ToValueFunfetti » Wed, Jul 26, 2023, 4:21 PM UTC

whycome wrote: post #29

open-paren wrote: post #14

dupe: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36877774

Weird with that many comments and votes that its on like page 5 of HN and this one quickly shot to front page. Maybe @dang can combine them in a hurry.

I imagine HN's algo punishes high comment/vote ratio submissions because they tend to be controversial.

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by howmayiannoyyou » Wed, Jul 26, 2023, 4:21 PM UTC

jfengel wrote: post #24

candiddevmike wrote: post #5

In theory, Congress should already know about the existence or not existence of aliens/UFOs, so what's the point here? To show that congress isn't being informed?

They do already know. They've already gotten a full briefing, and won't ask any questions that they don't know the answer to. The purpose of the hearing is to do that again in public. In theory, the idea is to get the information distributed more widely. In practice, it's usually about grandstanding, so that the politicians get to make speeches on TV.

Incorrect. If you listen to the actual testimony or have been paying attention to the details you will learn Congress is being stonewalled and its ability to provide oversight and appropriation (its constitutional duties) appears to be nonexistent. These hearings are shining a very public light on this as a means of rallying support for real Congressional oversight and less "off the books" management of these programs. That's not to say this is a good idea. Congress is inept and a good argument can be made for the status quo ante.

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by themagician » Wed, Jul 26, 2023, 4:21 PM UTC

babypuncher wrote: post #15

madspindel wrote: post #10

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What evidence do you have to support that claim?

Probably the same amount of evidence the whistleblower has to support theirs.

There is good evidence on both sides.

Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by ericmay » Wed, Jul 26, 2023, 4:22 PM UTC

howmayiannoyyou wrote: post #19

candiddevmike wrote: post #5

In theory, Congress should already know about the existence or not existence of aliens/UFOs, so what's the point here? To show that congress isn't being informed?

The point is program management & constitutionality: 1. Do programs exist over which Congress has no knowledge and/or oversight. If so, this is likely unconstitutional. 2. Do programs exist because Congressionally appropriated funds have been covertly redirected to those programs without Congressional knowledge. If so, likely unconstitutional. 3. Have whistleblowers been threatened or harmed to prevent disclosure and…

> If so, this is likely unconstitutional.

Perhaps, but as we've seen the law and the Constitution are subject to interpretation and to the extent that the law is enforced.

There are no aliens hidden by any government in the world. It's impossible to keep something like that under wraps. This whole thing is put on because it's a good way to distract the public and all politicians who are tough on aliens get political points and votes.

And just to be clear - you can't simultaneously think that the government has the capability to hide aliens but also discredit that the moon landings (for example) were faked. If you find yourself thinking "well they could be hiding aliens" ask yourself if you also find "they faked the moon landing" to be ridiculous - it's the same logic.