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I launched an iPhone app yesterday, and all I got were some stupid lessons

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Re: I launched an iPhone app yesterday, and all I got were some stupid lessons

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I took a look at your product, and your site, and I just thought I'd list a few negatives in case it helps you somehow:

1) No screenshots? I don't want to watch a movie. Also, if I have to watch a movie, I want to be able to scrub through it. 2) Wheres the one-liner that describes why your app is so great? 3) No sync'ing? WTF? Its the 21st century, I already have a Calendar app - and I've been using it. If I want to switch to your product, I'm going to need data in/data out.

Re: I launched an iPhone app yesterday, and all I got were some stupid lessons

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is not the price (of course a cheaper iTouch 4 wouldn't hurt), it's the time spans. The iTouch line needs a new version (retina display!?), and afaik they are a profitable line for Apple, so it's not like they will ditch it. But no new version yet, and I'm still waiting for my new one. Anyway it's a great looking app, congratulations and I bet it will get traction from this HN post :)

The iPod Touch has had a retina display since it first came out in September 2010. The last update to the iPod Touch was in October 2011, so that may be the one you're looking for.

Hmmm you're right, I missed the retina part of the 2010 launch. But the October 11 release was just being pre-installed with iOS 5 and having a white back version. Same chip & RAM as before (previous launch was in September 2010), nothing new & fancy, just a year-old model, running to be 2 years old already.

Re: I launched an iPhone app yesterday, and all I got were some stupid lessons

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Congratulations, it looks like you're on your way to escaping from developer obscurity :) I really like the clean spare design of your calendar app. Great job on the promotional page and video, it looks very professional. However, when I watched the video I had a bit of difficulty understanding the number of steps required to set the background color for each list item. Very sharp looking, though, I like it.

Watching him set the color for every chunk of an item was really painful. It looked like 1) not a simple or intuitive action and 2) really repetitive and boring.

I imagine it's a case of being slightly blind to one's own features. There's not a single case in the video where sets multiple colors for an item, so it seems like an oversight, probably due to the underlying implementation. Definitely a problem worth solving.

Re: I launched an iPhone app yesterday, and all I got were some stupid lessons

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Apparently Skrivr can't handle HN, so I've put up a flat-file version of the post here: http://samuelfine.com/iphone_lessons_learned.html [Edit] Looks like Skrivr is entirely down. Not sure it's my fault, but it was working all morning.

An update: they're working on it, and it was all our fault. https://twitter.com/#!/skrivr/status/178173526308683777 (And they misspelled my name!)

Re: I launched an iPhone app yesterday, and all I got were some stupid lessons

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I took a look at your product, and your site, and I just thought I'd list a few negatives in case it helps you somehow: 1) No screenshots? I don't want to watch a movie. Also, if I have to watch a movie, I want to be able to scrub through it. 2) Wheres the one-liner that describes why your app is so great? 3) No sync'ing? WTF? Its the 21st century, I already have a Calendar app - and I've been using it. If I want to…

It really does help, thanks a ton. I'm all about constructive criticism, very useful after being so closely focused on specific aspects of the app for months.

1) Great points. I'm working on a updated version of the site that will include a better video (scrubbable) and screenshots, amongst other improvements.

2) Working on it, that has been the #1 recommendation so far.

3) Straight-up iCal syncing probably won't happen, for a lot of reasons I mentioned in another comment here. (Import doesn't make a lot of sense logistically, mainly.) But, I'm playing with some import/export possibilities. There will definitely be a way to get data out soon, if for no other purpose than freedom/portability, and some kind of syncing option will surely show up eventually.

Re: I launched an iPhone app yesterday, and all I got were some stupid lessons

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About the app: - I'm really surprised Apple's ical doesn't let me create entries like that. You've out appled apple. If I could create todo's and categorize them GTD style I might return to iOS. - Floating Tasks (where they carry over) to me would be an instant sell. It's an absolute must and few people even know about it. I'd buy it on the spot if there was there. - My work flow is - create todo's in general, and th…

I'm keeping most of my roadmap close to the vest for obvious reasons, but repeating events (I like the term "floating tasks") are definitely coming very soon, probably with v1.1. Looking in to various syncing options as well.

Your description of your work flow is very interesting. The concept of a sort of todo "queue" from which items gets dropped into time slots is a really cool pattern. Only problem is, the closer Faraday comes to handling todo items, the hairier things get. Once general todo items are added, then you need projects and tags and ownership and etc etc etc.

That said, it would be impossible to ignore how well Faraday's UX would work with a todo list. Stay tuned.

I have heard before - quite possibly on HN, and quite possibly from you - that old Palm calendar apps are kind of legendary. I'll do some research in to DateBK6 for sure, I saw a YouTube video demoing the interface and it looks like a productivity machine.

Thanks for such an in-depth response, and for all the kind words.

Re: I launched an iPhone app yesterday, and all I got were some stupid lessons

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Congratulations, it looks like you're on your way to escaping from developer obscurity :) I really like the clean spare design of your calendar app. Great job on the promotional page and video, it looks very professional. However, when I watched the video I had a bit of difficulty understanding the number of steps required to set the background color for each list item. Very sharp looking, though, I like it.

Thanks! Everyday I'm hustlin'.

That pattern of setting background colors for multiple blocks is by far the most embarrassing part of this whole launch experience, and I've already built a fix that'll kill all those ridiculous repetitive actions for 1.0.2.

Re: I launched an iPhone app yesterday, and all I got were some stupid lessons

#38

Congratulations, it looks like you're on your way to escaping from developer obscurity :) I really like the clean spare design of your calendar app. Great job on the promotional page and video, it looks very professional. However, when I watched the video I had a bit of difficulty understanding the number of steps required to set the background color for each list item. Very sharp looking, though, I like it.

Watching him set the color for every chunk of an item was really painful. It looked like 1) not a simple or intuitive action and 2) really repetitive and boring. I imagine it's a case of being slightly blind to one's own features. There's not a single case in the video where sets multiple colors for an item, so it seems like an oversight, probably due to the underlying implementation. Definitely a problem worth solvi…

Oh yeah, it hurts. Like I mentioned in my reply to the parent, totally embarrassed by it and have already built a fix for the issue in v1.0.2, coming in a week or two.

Re: I launched an iPhone app yesterday, and all I got were some stupid lessons

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post #30

About the app: - I'm really surprised Apple's ical doesn't let me create entries like that. You've out appled apple. If I could create todo's and categorize them GTD style I might return to iOS. - Floating Tasks (where they carry over) to me would be an instant sell. It's an absolute must and few people even know about it. I'd buy it on the spot if there was there. - My work flow is - create todo's in general, and th…

Just wait until 10.8 when this is mysteriously integrated into iCal.

Re: I launched an iPhone app yesterday, and all I got were some stupid lessons

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post #30

About the app: - I'm really surprised Apple's ical doesn't let me create entries like that. You've out appled apple. If I could create todo's and categorize them GTD style I might return to iOS. - Floating Tasks (where they carry over) to me would be an instant sell. It's an absolute must and few people even know about it. I'd buy it on the spot if there was there. - My work flow is - create todo's in general, and th…

I'm keeping most of my roadmap close to the vest for obvious reasons, but repeating events (I like the term "floating tasks") are definitely coming very soon, probably with v1.1. Looking in to various syncing options as well. Your description of your work flow is very interesting. The concept of a sort of todo "queue" from which items gets dropped into time slots is a really cool pattern. Only problem is, the closer…

Maybe I can clarify.

- Everything on a calendar is a to-do item, ultimately. We want to remember to do something at a certain time, on a certain date. You're already in that business.

- The problem you are solving is hairy. Shaving the problem doesn't make it go away. Things always come up to ruin a schedule.

- Trivializing the issue means it's on it's path to potentially becoming another calendar or to-do list that does neither well, because we always have to manage both, integrated. I've probably tried 30+ apps over the years to handle my workflow, and it's been a tough go.

- Instead of a to-do queue, it's different types of appointments with your time : unscheduled, tentative (floating), and scheduled.

- Appointments for your time ("tasks") come into an inbox (GTDesq but simpler) and end up on a list. The list gets put into categories (nothing more), which are the GTD contexts (Phone, online, email, home, etc). You can then drop the categories on your day into blocks of hours and the list fills itself, according to the ranking you give everything, and any dates you might assign. :)

- Floating task advance notice - One other thign that's critical is having an advance notice for a task or appointment. Sometimes i like 2 days, other times 10 days. I like being able to set that without a separate reminder entry. It just starts showing up in my list early (lower ranked than the rest of my current stuff on an earlier day). I can start thinking about it or start tackling it in advance... it ends my last minute rushes.

- Each task can be bundled to handle other things of a similar context. I can show you what I do. It works like gangbusters.

- Mini Reviews: Omnifocus came close but their calendar view isn't how it needs to be. Any.do has great UI integration but their calendar view sucks. Astrid is a lot better, and has different types of syncs, their calendar view is a bit better. GTasks for android is the diamond in the rough, the calendar/todo list view was perfect, but entering, categorizing and syncing of tasks is still coming along. The Datebk6 calendar view is the best I've ever found.

There is a very good chance I talked about DateBK5 / Palm apps.. check my history, I'm almost sure I have. Pimlical is http://www.pimlicosoftware.com/, and intended to be the next reincarnation of Datebk6 for android. I specifically left iOS to use this app because I knew he gets me. Actually, his app is the one that taught me to be productive, lol. It's not perfect though and I think Faraday has things I really want too.

Why am I sharing all this? I just want to pay $20 for an app that does all this instead of building it and getting distracted from my core business. I've often thought of sinking in my own money but as you know, building a polished, gestured app isn't a $1-5,000 app development effort. :)

I have spent 10+ years being completely and constantly overwhelmed with having too many projects on the go and getting them all done somehow, and that somehow becoming the norm that I can be peaceful with it as much as possible.

What I learnt is more complex solutions don't work as you get busier. They have to be simpler, quicker and easier than scribbling something down. Everything has to go to one inbox, including emails. It has to be even simpler, but help compartmentalize, self organize, self rank, and self generate as much of your daily list as possible.

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