Embrace Complexity; Tighten Your Feedback Loops

Post by aschearer » Sun, Jul 23, 2023, 12:09 AM UTC

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Giving and receiving love is not zero-sum. Cultivating mutual trust is not zero-sum.

it is not zero-sum between two parties (as in if one party shows more love, there is a chance it will create more mutual love from the other party). But, the problem can be reformulated as zero-sum in terms of time: Time is the ultimate scarce and zero-sum resource, you cannot create time, only redistribute. The more time we spend with the loved ones, less time we have for other things like hobbies and work. Company…

Post by Chrisoaks » Sun, Jul 23, 2023, 2:11 AM UTC

slt2021 wrote: post #23

aschearer wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Giving and receiving love is not zero-sum. Cultivating mutual trust is not zero-sum.

it is not zero-sum between two parties (as in if one party shows more love, there is a chance it will create more mutual love from the other party). But, the problem can be reformulated as zero-sum in terms of time: Time is the ultimate scarce and zero-sum resource, you cannot create time, only redistribute. The more time we spend with the loved ones, less time we have for other things like hobbies and work. Company…

Post by slt2021 » Sun, Jul 23, 2023, 2:27 AM UTC

Chrisoaks wrote: post #33

slt2021 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it is not zero-sum between two parties (as in if one party shows more love, there is a chance it will create more mutual love from the other party). But, the problem can be reformulated as zero-sum in terms of time: Time is the ultimate scarce and zero-sum resource, you cannot create time, only redistribute. The more time we spend with the loved ones, less time we have for other things like hobbies and work. Company…

Free time isn’t zero sum. An accountant and a plumber can create free time by trading services. If it would take a plumber five hours to file his taxes, he could instead fix the tax accountant’s sink in one hour in exchange for the tax accountant filing his taxes. Assuming the tax accountant can do so in one hour and would have taken five hours to fix his own sink, both profit by reclaiming four hours of time.

Post by AndrewKemendo » Sun, Jul 23, 2023, 4:11 AM UTC

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>They are there to crack the whip and collect the spoils This is historically correct Here's a recent unambiguous proof from Tesla's own words: "Tesla argued that stock options were used to ensure Director's incentives were aligned with investor goals." [1] Said another way, "we massively over-paid directors in order to give them an incentive to prioritize investor goals over all other goals" In the parlance of finan…

Workers vs investors shouldn't be seen as a zero sum game. If it is then that's short-term thinking. Simon Sinek explains this all very well in The Infinite Game.

Post by phs318u » Sun, Jul 23, 2023, 4:47 AM UTC

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That's a point of view that would change quickly if you were in one of those management positions. You get to a point where it's impossible to do the work anymore. There's too much of it. You have to develop teams, processes, structure, etc. that delivers the outcomes you're accountable for with full knowledge that you cannot do them yourself. It's very different than doing the work and experience shows that fewer pe…

> I encourage you to compare the productivity of the modern multinational corporation to any commune in history. The people working in collectives are not stupid or lazy. It's not an effective structure. It’s a hard comparison to make when the goals of those two systems are vastly different. I worked for a multinational software company and the amount of waste I saw was just staggering. If outside shareholders knew h…