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Re: Project Aria 'Digital Twin' Dataset by Meta

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Post by SkyPuncher »

croes wrote: post #29
nightpool wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is common on many, many sites like this because they do not have any tracking cookies or anything else that they would need consent for, but they're still required to display a cookie banner "notifying" you that cookies are "in use" as per the terms of the old 2009 ePrivacy Directive. In this case, it appears that projectaria.com sets 1) one cookie for the user's DPR (1 or 2) so that the backend can serve optimi…

Then why does the banner say? >We use cookies to personalise and improve content and services, deliver relevant advertisements and increase the safety of our users

It’s probably the default language for the company. Technical, t he at allows them to have tracking cookies even if they don’t have them now

Re: Project Aria 'Digital Twin' Dataset by Meta

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Post by Etheryte »

coldpie wrote: post #14
master-lincoln wrote: post #12

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you should care because often this agreement is not about the technical detail of cookies, but allowing the company you are interacting with to share data about you with 3rd parties.

If you think which HTML div element you click on to dismiss a sticky banner has any bearing whatsoever on how your data is handled server-side, I've got a trip to the Titanic in an Oceangate submersible to sell you.

Legally it does, at least if you're in the EU. The only reason websites are slow on the uptake around this is that the legal gears are slow, however we have seen many considerable fines in this space in the last few years and things are improving.

Re: Project Aria 'Digital Twin' Dataset by Meta

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Post by capableweb »

mike_d wrote: post #26
marcinzm wrote: post #13

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Isn't that a GDPR violation since they're not allowed to prevent access if you refuse to share data not necessary for the service to function? Since it's from Meta I suspect regulators would enjoy another thing to add to the list for future fine calculations.

Not at all. You can have a single prompt with a single accept button if you are only using functional cookies on a site.

In that case, you don't need anything, no notice nor consent required at all, get rid of the entire modal/popup/banner.

Re: Project Aria 'Digital Twin' Dataset by Meta

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Post by dleeftink »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #18
ikhatri wrote: post #10

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Egocentric means that the sensors frame of reference is the same as the ego (self). The person walking around is wearing the sensors/glasses themselves & their pose is given as “ego pose”. This dataset is clearly targeted for research on AR/XR/VR applications.

+1 I’ll “yes and” here…beyond AR/VR a more powerful use case is multi-modal learning (with RL) which is what Meta is probably the leader in IMO. Example paper here: “ Towards Continual Egocentric Activity Recognition: A Multi-modal Egocentric Activity Dataset for Continual Learning” https://arxiv.org/abs/2301.10931 This IMO is the pathway to AGI, as it combines all sense-plan-do data into a time coordinated stream an…

Just to make sure I understand your excitement: we need guinea-pigs ahem people to wear 'head mounted all day ego centric AR' with who knows how many integrated sensors for long stretches on end, so we can finally get to our fabled A.G.i?

That is some B.F. Skinner level future we're aiming for--only this time around, humans become the fully surveilled 'teaching machine'.

Re: Project Aria 'Digital Twin' Dataset by Meta

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Post by KaiserPro »

quietthrow wrote: post #5

Genuine question: What is an egocentric data set? Eli5 please? What can this be used for?

As you know, to make machine learning work, it needs loads of data.

Most picture and videos are taken from a camera at arm's length, not attached to someone's face.

so if you want to make AR glasses "see" and "understand" the world from the point of view of a human (ie navigation, where is x, etc etc) then you need to make a dataset with that sensor configuration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vnZCwf5_QE has a simple example from CMU, rather than facebook

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Post by rglullis »

nightpool wrote: post #27
dustypotato wrote: post #2

First thing I notice while browsing from EU is that there's only one option regarding cookies. Accept all! Even if I click "Learn more" there's no "accept necessary cookies" or "Reject cookies". First time I encounter something like this.

This is common on many, many sites like this because they do not have any tracking cookies or anything else that they would need consent for, but they're still required to display a cookie banner "notifying" you that cookies are "in use" as per the terms of the old 2009 ePrivacy Directive. In this case, it appears that projectaria.com sets 1) one cookie for the user's DPR (1 or 2) so that the backend can serve optimi…

AFAIK, that is not true. Cookie banners are only required if they are used for tracking purposes.

Re: Project Aria 'Digital Twin' Dataset by Meta

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Post by posterboy »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #18
ikhatri wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Egocentric means that the sensors frame of reference is the same as the ego (self). The person walking around is wearing the sensors/glasses themselves & their pose is given as “ego pose”. This dataset is clearly targeted for research on AR/XR/VR applications.

+1 I’ll “yes and” here…beyond AR/VR a more powerful use case is multi-modal learning (with RL) which is what Meta is probably the leader in IMO. Example paper here: “ Towards Continual Egocentric Activity Recognition: A Multi-modal Egocentric Activity Dataset for Continual Learning” https://arxiv.org/abs/2301.10931 This IMO is the pathway to AGI, as it combines all sense-plan-do data into a time coordinated stream an…

> a behavior authoring loop

A behaviour that authors loops?

Re: Project Aria 'Digital Twin' Dataset by Meta

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Post by rglullis »

ethbr0 wrote: post #20
explaininjs wrote: post #15

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Learned helplessness. Teach the citizens that the only thing protecting them from the Big Scary Internet is their benevolent government. Meanwhile the politicians collect millions from the mass media companies that lobbied for the god-awful implementation of the law we all ended up with, and as everyone gets worn down into Accepting All always, they simultaneously forget that their User Agent holds all the cards (or…

Did you just take a problem that free market tech created and blame it on the government? ;) User agent sovereignty would be nice... except the most used browser and 1/2 of smartphones are controlled by Google, the largest ad tracking company on the planet. We're way past the 90s.

Is it the time of the day where I make Brave advocacy again?

Brave has shown that we can have an user agent that is aligned with the user, even if the browser engine is made by Google.

Re: Project Aria 'Digital Twin' Dataset by Meta

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Post by sanderjd »

capableweb wrote: post #28
nightpool wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is common on many, many sites like this because they do not have any tracking cookies or anything else that they would need consent for, but they're still required to display a cookie banner "notifying" you that cookies are "in use" as per the terms of the old 2009 ePrivacy Directive. In this case, it appears that projectaria.com sets 1) one cookie for the user's DPR (1 or 2) so that the backend can serve optimi…

> but they're still required to display a cookie banner "notifying" you that cookies are "in use" Common misconception but this is not true. If you use cookies only for functional purposes (not for tracking for example), you do not need to show any cookie banners. Like if you have a shopping cart and you have a cookie for keeping track of what's in it, it's for functional purposes for the user and hence needs no noti…

But it's easier and less risky to just always put in the standard language that everyone ignores and mindlessly clicks through anyway. Which is why this was very silly legislation. People helping develop future legislation (in the EU and elsewhere) should be aware of this as a cautionary tale of incentivizing theater with only cost and no benefit.

Re: Project Aria 'Digital Twin' Dataset by Meta

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Post by sanderjd »

ethbr0 wrote: post #20
explaininjs wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Learned helplessness. Teach the citizens that the only thing protecting them from the Big Scary Internet is their benevolent government. Meanwhile the politicians collect millions from the mass media companies that lobbied for the god-awful implementation of the law we all ended up with, and as everyone gets worn down into Accepting All always, they simultaneously forget that their User Agent holds all the cards (or…

Did you just take a problem that free market tech created and blame it on the government? ;) User agent sovereignty would be nice... except the most used browser and 1/2 of smartphones are controlled by Google, the largest ad tracking company on the planet. We're way past the 90s.

This particular problem with annoying cookie dialogs is actually a government-created problem though...

But I do agree with you that "free market tech" created the problem of "tracking cookies are ubiquitous and users don't know how to control them". But then regulators just layered another annoyance on top of that, instead of solving that actual problem.

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