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OpenStreetMap: Welcome Apple

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Re: OpenStreetMap: Welcome Apple

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Post by trin_ »

ugh wrote: post #27
NameNickHN wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but in Germany it sucks That's funny. A German client of mine specifically asked me to put an OpenStreetMap map right next to the Google Map because the details of OpenStreetMap were more precise. The client creates POI geo coordinates and uses the maps to find the best position for a poi.

I don't know what's going on there. OSM does have lots of detail for Germany and the problems with OSM are more general ones with the consistency of label placement and such. No map breaking stuff. Apple's tiles, however have more glaring mistakes (double labels, missing labels).

its missing detail? at least in my city its much more detailed than gmaps

Re: OpenStreetMap: Welcome Apple

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Post by rmc »

ugh wrote: post #20

Then congratulations Apple, for making a not so great map even worse. I can't really judge map quality in the US, but in Germany it sucks. Cities show up twice or are missing completely, labels are often small, unreadable and ugly. There is no consistency in the placement of lables. OSM has its fair share of inconsistencies but it's not that bad. The map is ok for what it is: Just for presentation inside of iPhoto, n…

Apple's labels are strange, they aren't from OSM, but some other source. There are numerous differences between OSM labels and Apple labels.

Re: OpenStreetMap: Welcome Apple

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Post by chpolk »

With many of these larger map-based apps switching to OpenStreetMap, does anyone know any apps that receive a large amount of traffic that are currently/going to stay with Google Maps? And if so, how are they dealing with the charges (is it doable with a large amount of traffic without a significant source of revenue)?

Re: OpenStreetMap: Welcome Apple

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Post by ugh »

trin_ wrote: post #31
ugh wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know what's going on there. OSM does have lots of detail for Germany and the problems with OSM are more general ones with the consistency of label placement and such. No map breaking stuff. Apple's tiles, however have more glaring mistakes (double labels, missing labels).

its missing detail? at least in my city its much more detailed than gmaps

OSM or Apple's maps? OSM has crazy amounts of accurate detail for all cities I know in Germany.

Apple's tiles have all the streets but not a lot of detail (probably by choice, nothing wrong with a sparser map, especially for the intended purpose) and the labels suck.

Re: OpenStreetMap: Welcome Apple

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Post by funkah »

ugh wrote: post #20

Then congratulations Apple, for making a not so great map even worse. I can't really judge map quality in the US, but in Germany it sucks. Cities show up twice or are missing completely, labels are often small, unreadable and ugly. There is no consistency in the placement of lables. OSM has its fair share of inconsistencies but it's not that bad. The map is ok for what it is: Just for presentation inside of iPhoto, n…

I don't know much about OSM, but I saw a comparison of the new map tiles in iPhoto with the same place in Google, and Google's seemed much more detailed. I know Apple is doing this to remove dependencies on G but I fear it could be a bit of a regression. I hope I'm wrong. In iPhoto that's not such a big deal, but other apps rely on the map much more.

Re: OpenStreetMap: Welcome Apple

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Post by ktizo »

LaGrange wrote: post #11
sdoering wrote: post #7

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Why is that, that if Apple ignores credit/copyright (on a massive scale), that everybody loves their move. But if anybody would rip of an Apple product, the descendants of mighty Steve would come raining down with swords, axes and lawyers. Do you really think they did it, to support OSM. Or should I ask myself: "Where is the money?" The money, they do not have to pay Google anymore for the use of maps, while not cred…

I think the thing you might be witnessing here is what earthlings call "sarcasm," or maybe "a thinly veiled threat". I'm not entirely sure which one.

The whole article is sarcasm laid on with a trowel by people who would probably be willing to chase all the media exposure and legal avenues available to them if Apple doesn't play nice from here on in.

I would love to be a fly-on-the wall at the Apple meeting where they are forced to discuss this.

Re: OpenStreetMap: Welcome Apple

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Post by ceejayoz »

rmc wrote: post #32
ugh wrote: post #20

Then congratulations Apple, for making a not so great map even worse. I can't really judge map quality in the US, but in Germany it sucks. Cities show up twice or are missing completely, labels are often small, unreadable and ugly. There is no consistency in the placement of lables. OSM has its fair share of inconsistencies but it's not that bad. The map is ok for what it is: Just for presentation inside of iPhoto, n…

Apple's labels are strange, they aren't from OSM, but some other source. There are numerous differences between OSM labels and Apple labels.

According to the post, Apple's using an old version of the OSM data set.
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