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Zoom fatigue unpacked

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Re: Zoom fatigue unpacked

#31
I avoid all of this by not owning a webcam.

I don't have video of me broadcasting because I simply can't, and nobody ever questions it because they don't really care as it's a non-essential component.

I do make heavy use of visual aids & other screen sharing, so that people can look at what we are discussing, not me.

Re: Zoom fatigue unpacked

#32
A huge contributor they missed: technical faults. Between glitchy connections and people's inadequate microphone setups, everyone is constantly asking each other to repeat themselves. This is exhausting to me.

Re: Zoom fatigue unpacked

#33
post #28
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I guess I was doing some these things already and didnt know it. Standing desk locked in the up position for zoom marathon days. Stepping back from the screens and camera when there isnt any reason to have hands on kb/m. I'm a usual pacer when on the phone so I'm not sure if that's instinct or habit but it certainly helps. Scheduling is also not mentioned surprisingly, but leaving 5-15m buffer gaps between back to ba…

I've tried leaving 15 minute buffers in between meetings. All that happens is that my colleagues schedule 15 minute long meetings in the gaps. It's exhausting.

There’s a concept called defensive calendaring I would encourage you to look up.

I regularly schedule focus time or project time on my calendar and when I had days of stacked meetings, I’ll fill in the gaps with focus time to ensure I’m not overbooked.

I wouldn’t be shocked if there’s plugins or tools to help, though I do it fairly manually.

Re: Zoom fatigue unpacked

#34
Less meetings / more async isn’t always the best answer.

Most people are terrible at written communication, and much better at spoken (which makes sense since most speak more than write).

So even though it’s terribly unfortunate, for the masses, more times than not - meetings have a total net-gain effect vs async written.

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#35
post #23

Of course, the elephant in the room is that people need to stop having so many meetings. Those of us who have been working remotely for a decade or more never had this problem - we use async communications, quick one-off calls when needed, and really never spent all our time in meetings. But when everyone moved to remote work a few years ago, this culture of meetings all day came up... and it still confuses me. It is…

agreed. dont know who needs to hear this but if you're having more than 1 scrum a week its not devops, its micromanagement, and if youve got more than 2-3 meetings a week youre effectively doing your managers work. if it can be summarized in 2-3 lines in an email, dont accept the meeting.

Management is a skill and a lot of people get peter principled into it and don't learn or hone the skill set required.

Re: Zoom fatigue unpacked

#36

Less meetings / more async isn’t always the best answer. Most people are terrible at written communication, and much better at spoken (which makes sense since most speak more than write). So even though it’s terribly unfortunate, for the masses, more times than not - meetings have a total net-gain effect vs async written.

Yeah the answer is actually MORE meetings which are shorter and have 5 or fewer participants. I can’t tell you how many 1 hour meetings I’ve sat through with 20 people, only 2 of whom are talking.

Re: Zoom fatigue unpacked

#37

Of course, the elephant in the room is that people need to stop having so many meetings. Those of us who have been working remotely for a decade or more never had this problem - we use async communications, quick one-off calls when needed, and really never spent all our time in meetings. But when everyone moved to remote work a few years ago, this culture of meetings all day came up... and it still confuses me. It is…

Thanks for saying this. I’m strongly considering leaving a job primarily due to the meeting culture. It’s just incredibly wasteful. We can spend weeks talking about things I would have knocked out in days in a previous role.

Re: Zoom fatigue unpacked

#38
post #23

Of course, the elephant in the room is that people need to stop having so many meetings. Those of us who have been working remotely for a decade or more never had this problem - we use async communications, quick one-off calls when needed, and really never spent all our time in meetings. But when everyone moved to remote work a few years ago, this culture of meetings all day came up... and it still confuses me. It is…

agreed. dont know who needs to hear this but if you're having more than 1 scrum a week its not devops, its micromanagement, and if youve got more than 2-3 meetings a week youre effectively doing your managers work. if it can be summarized in 2-3 lines in an email, dont accept the meeting.

Worse are meeting with just a vague title and not a well defined agenda. So many times I have to ask the organizer to add bullet points of the items to cover so I can at least join already prepared, can tell the organizer if I am not really the right person to join for the meeting and/or if someone from another team would be necessary.

So many time is wasted on meeting because of off topic stuff or because the rights persons haven't been invited.

Re: Zoom fatigue unpacked

#39

I avoid all of this by not owning a webcam. I don't have video of me broadcasting because I simply can't, and nobody ever questions it because they don't really care as it's a non-essential component. I do make heavy use of visual aids & other screen sharing, so that people can look at what we are discussing, not me.

I just tell people I’m on my desktop. They call you on it if you have a laptop, because they all have webcams these days.

Re: Zoom fatigue unpacked

#40

Of course, the elephant in the room is that people need to stop having so many meetings. Those of us who have been working remotely for a decade or more never had this problem - we use async communications, quick one-off calls when needed, and really never spent all our time in meetings. But when everyone moved to remote work a few years ago, this culture of meetings all day came up... and it still confuses me. It is…

it’s much easier to brute force through a multi-hour meeting instead of pre-planning and having clear objectives and outcomes.

It’s just easier to waste everyone’s time and meander through it.

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